View Full Version : Is Alcoholism a Disease?
C++ Student
02-07-2009, 02:21 AM
Is it really a disease where bacteria take over your body to make you drink alcohol or a genetic thing, or is it just a thing where you call it alcoholism but really you are too weak in willpower to resist a drink? (or you just like drinking and people call you an alcoholic as if it is a bad thing)
Mooseman
02-07-2009, 02:23 AM
Its a blessing.
Its a blessing.
lol, i agree.
Rourke
02-07-2009, 02:23 AM
Its a blessing.
lol :D
Mo0rbid
02-07-2009, 02:28 AM
tell that to a cancer patient and they will shoot you in the face with a 40 cal
I've had second hand experiences with alcoholism andsubstance abuse, it's not a disease.
THey are choices
Strangia
02-07-2009, 02:28 AM
Alcoholism is one of the few diseases you can get yelled at for having.
"Otto, you are an alcoholic!"
Sounds way better that
"Otto, you have lupus!"
-Mitch Hedberg
C++ Student
02-07-2009, 02:28 AM
tell that to a cancer patient and they will shoot you in the face with a 40 cal
Theyll be dead before they can lift one.
Mo0rbid
02-07-2009, 02:29 AM
Theyll be dead before they can lift one.
my point still stands
Baralis
02-07-2009, 02:30 AM
just a thing where you call it alcoholism but really you are too weak in willpower to resist a drink?
This ^^ speaking first hand. I was an alcoholic for many years. It just took opening my eyes to see the damage it was causing myself and thoes around me to quit. For those that do not quit I suspect they do not realize the damage they cause or care more about themselves then thoes around them.
My question is, if an obese person that is to fat to walk a parkinglot can apply and recieve a disability parking permit (obesity being considered a disease as well as alcoholism). Then why could I not have applied for a disability permit because I was to intoxicated to walk the parking lot?
C++ Student
02-07-2009, 02:33 AM
my point still stands
Still I think it isn't a disease.
I think the only reason somebody will fail at quitting smoking, drinking, or whatever it is that they honestly don't want to quit.
Z31Turbo
02-07-2009, 02:36 AM
My mom is an alcoholic and as a result I went to several meetings and what not with her through after she got 2 DUIs in a row.
Anyone who has been to a meeting and is intelligent can tell you it is all complete shit, they simply try to put their problems on other things but themselves. Rehab places are the worst, the only thing that makes them work is the fact they can't have alcohol in them, and willpower, nothing more. They want you to give up hope and find help in a higher power. Complete absolute, bull shit.
C++ Student
02-07-2009, 02:38 AM
My mom is an alcoholic and as a result I went to several meetings and what not with her through after she got 2 DUIs in a row.
Anyone who has been to a meeting and is intelligent can tell you it is all complete shit, they simply try to put their problems on other things but themselves. Rehab places are the worst, the only thing that makes them work is the fact they can't have alcohol in them, and willpower, nothing more. They want you to give up hope and find help in a higher power. Complete absolute, bull shit.
Yes I have noticed the higher power thing at several AA meetings I have been to with (a) certain member(s) of my family.
Still I think it isn't a disease.
I think the only reason somebody will fail at quitting smoking, drinking, or whatever it is that they honestly don't want to quit.
I agree. If someone really wants to stop doing something that badly, then they will stop doing it.
It's all in their heads. I don't stop drinking because I don't want to.
Rourke
02-07-2009, 02:40 AM
I agree. If someone really wants to stop doing something that badly, then they will stop doing it.
It's all in their heads. I don't stop drinking because I don't want to.
Yeah, and plus your what 20 years old? You haven't drank long enough to stop. Long Island sux.
Z31Turbo
02-07-2009, 02:44 AM
Yes I have noticed the higher power thing at several AA meetings I have been to with (a) certain member(s) of my family.
It's where the whole disease thing comes from. Alcoholism is an addiction nothing more, a physical and mental addiction, and the people who have serious issues with it are people with addictive behaviors. And AA or rehab isn't going to change that, hell, just go outside after an AA meeting and you'll find everyone smoking a cigarette. An addiction isn't a disease...
Rourke
02-07-2009, 02:44 AM
Lol, if you only knew faggot.
Don't talk shit you know absolutely nothing about, which includes how long I have been drinking.
Well, let's see. Your in NYC, and your an emo gamer.....I'm gonna guess you started drinking around 10.
Long island iced tea.. and i thought americans were pussies that don't drink.
But seriously i pretty much agree that alcoholism is bad. Although i'm actually quite drunk atm
Z31Turbo
02-07-2009, 02:45 AM
I agree. If someone really wants to stop doing something that badly, then they will stop doing it.
It's all in their heads. I don't stop drinking because I don't want to.
Uhhh, it's not just in your head, it's a physical addiction, not just a mental one. If we were talking about world of warcraft you'd be right. (well probably half right)
Well, let's see. Your in NYC, and your an emo gamer.....I'm gonna guess you started drinking around 10.
Yea, I`m an "emo" gamer. How'd you guess.
Lol, I am not the one that is angry at the world, dork. Your the fucking little emo skinny boy who cannot get laid. Sorry your life sucks.
C++ Student
02-07-2009, 02:45 AM
It's where the whole disease thing comes from. Alcoholism is an addiction nothing more, a physical and mental addiction, and the people who have serious issues with it are people with addictive behaviors. And AA or rehab isn't going to change that, hell, just go outside after an AA meeting and you'll find everyone smoking a cigarette. An addiction isn't a disease...
Hah you are so right! Everybody does smoke after an AA meeting. Mind-boggling.
C++ Student
02-07-2009, 02:46 AM
Yea, I`m an "emo" gamer. How'd you guess.
Lol, I am not the one that is angry at the world, dork. Your the fucking little emo skinny boy who cannot get laid. Sorry your life sucks.
Hey shut the hell up. At least he had some evidence to support his insults. You have no idea how often he get laid or whether or not his life sucks.
Drinking alchohol is not a disease, it's a choice. If you don't want to drink, then don't go to the store and buy some beers. No one is forcing you to do that.
o.0
[O]_Fawkes
02-07-2009, 02:47 AM
It's a choice.
Any person stupid enough to poison themselves to such an extent that it can be called a disease deserves it.
Baralis
02-07-2009, 02:50 AM
_Fawkes;2609933']It's a choice.
Any person stupid enough to poison themselves to such an extent that it can be called a disease deserves it.
I dont know if I would go as far as saying that. Almost every single thing that you do/ingest/use has harmful effects on your body. Should we stop doing everything? Breathing is the number contributor to ageing in cells. ;)
Rourke
02-07-2009, 02:51 AM
Yea, I`m an "emo" gamer. How'd you guess.
Lol, I am not the one that is angry at the world, dork. Your the fucking little emo skinny boy who cannot get laid. Sorry your life sucks.
You nailed it!!! Are you like psychic???
/runs away crying with Blue October on his Ipodz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOziJi-1hHE
/sniff. :(
Choroneye
02-07-2009, 03:01 AM
Genetic Family history can lean people towards alcoholism more than others, but in the end it is a choice. Like Homosexuality
C++ Student
02-07-2009, 03:02 AM
Genetic Family history can lean people towards alcoholism more than others, but in the end it is a choice. Like Homosexuality
That doesnt mean homosexuality is wrong
You nailed it!!! Are you like psychic???
/runs away crying with Blue October on his Ipodz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOziJi-1hHE
/sniff. :(
2000+ posts says it all. Seriously.
worldspin85
02-07-2009, 03:03 AM
its an addiction not a disease.
Dyrrn
02-07-2009, 03:05 AM
My question is, if an obese person that is to fat to walk a parkinglot can apply and recieve a disability parking permit (obesity being considered a disease as well as alcoholism). Then why could I not have applied for a disability permit because I was to intoxicated to walk the parking lot?
because you shouldn't be driving a car to a parking lot while intoxicated?
Strangia
02-07-2009, 03:05 AM
Genetic Family history can lean people towards alcoholism more than others, but in the end it is a choice. Like Homosexuality
Hm.....this could be a creative troll......or this guy could be serious........
Z31Turbo
02-07-2009, 03:11 AM
Genetic Family history can lean people towards alcoholism more than others, but in the end it is a choice. Like Homosexuality
Sweet jesus I wish homosexuality was a choice are you fucking kidding me?? If I could choose who I was attracted to I'd be gay in a fucking second, you think I want to put up with all the dumb bitches in the world? Rofl choice, I wish.
C++ Student
02-07-2009, 03:12 AM
Sweet jesus I wish homosexuality was a choice are you fucking kidding me?? If I could choose who I was attracted to I'd be gay in a fucking second, you think I want to put up with all the dumb bitches in the world? Rofl choice, I wish.
Lol I think I can agree with you... somehow
Whats wrong with dumb bitches?
You don't need to fuck someone with intelligence every time.
Anyway if you want to screw people with one UNlubricated hole then fine.
Women have more holes and they self lubricate...
Fucking retards are raving around here like zombies at doomsday.
alfaroverall
02-07-2009, 03:43 AM
There's nothing with bacteria. Your cells wind up mutated.
That said, it depends on your definition. You're still in control for a very, very long time, and thus calling it a disease so as to externalize blame is foolish. Calling it a disease simply to describe it (which could be accurate, since your cells DO wind up mutated by alcohol use) is unnecessary.
[O]_Fawkes
02-07-2009, 03:46 AM
I dont know if I would go as far as saying that. Almost every single thing that you do/ingest/use has harmful effects on your body. Should we stop doing everything? Breathing is the number contributor to ageing in cells. ;)
Someone who sees distinct negative affects on their body must be stupid to keep doing what they're doing. Stupid or weak-willed, both are an unacceptable excuse for Alcoholism.
Rourke
02-07-2009, 04:14 AM
2000+ posts says it all. Seriously.
You joined 2 months ago, and have over 250. You'll hit 1000 in 4 months.
Rourke
02-07-2009, 04:15 AM
Anyway if you want to screw people with one UNlubricated hole then fine.
Women have more holes and they self lubricate...
I submit this as a sticky.
You joined 2 months ago, and have over 250. You'll hit 1000 in 4 months.
Right, and I will feel so accomplished when I hit 1000+ posts.
Uhm, not really. I will actually make sure that I never post again if I ever hit that, which I won't... because I have atleast 1/2 a life.
Z31Turbo
02-07-2009, 04:19 AM
Whats wrong with dumb bitches?
You don't need to fuck someone with intelligence every time.
It's the dealing with them just to get them there, plus I'm one of those stupid "relationship" sorta guys, fucking sucks.
Anyway if you want to screw people with one UNlubricated hole then fine.
Women have more holes and they self lubricate...
Lubrication can easily be supplied, plus, as you get older you'll find those self lubricating holes just don't have quite the same effect as when you were younger and will look to her other, nonlubricated holes.
Rourke
02-07-2009, 04:19 AM
Right, and I will feel so accomplished when I hit 1000+ posts.
Uhm, not really. I will actually make sure that I never post again if I ever hit that, which I won't... because I have atleast 1/2 a life.
What's it like? Having half a life? Is it everything they say it is? Can you show me the secrets of Strawberry Shortcake too?
What's it like? Having half a life? Is it everything they say it is? Can you show me the secrets of Strawberry Shortcake too?
Maybe..
but I'm not sure you are worthy.
nucer
02-07-2009, 05:04 AM
no, but the stupidity required to drink sure is.
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