Anyone here play EVE?

[Desperado[1G]]

That really knows their shit? I've been training Caldari ships and missile skills, but from what I'm hearing, missiles aren't as good as turrets due to flight time and QR nerfs?

I started as Amarr and crosstrained into Caldari. I'm wondering if I should stick with Amarr.

[Justinian]

;2540265']That really knows their shit? I've been training Caldari ships and missile skills, but from what I'm hearing, missiles aren't as good as turrets due to flight time and QR nerfs?

I started as Amarr and crosstrained into Caldari. I'm wondering if I should stick with Amarr.

do whatever is fun for you. There is no magic template.

I did ACs with minmatar because it was fun.

[Lethn]

lol just pick the strongest ships as long as you have that then it'll be only numbers in the end that will decide who you can beat.

[alfaroverall]

lol just pick the strongest ships as long as you have that then it'll be only numbers in the end that will decide who you can beat.
Ignore Lethn, as he is an idiot, especially with regard to EVE.

The game is fairly balanced, you won't wind up screwed completely if you train up missiles, so don't worry about it. Amarr, if I recall, is pretty freaking gimped though; I've forgotten why.

I play minmatar myself, I fly a BC primarily, though I'm planning on getting an AF pretty soon. Minmatar is pretty much exclusively projectiles, with missiles sprinkled in where launcher points exist. For completion's sake, in case you're quite new:
Gallente is hybrid guns and many drones
Amarr is lasers and ridiculously thick armor
Caldari is the best at missiles but has ships that focus on hybrid guns instead

[Spades Felligan]

It classically goes as:

Gallente: PWN Online
Minmatar: PVP Online
Caldari: PVE Online
Amarr: LOL Online

I heard Amarr got a boost, don't know. It's often hard to find supply for Amarr ships out in 0.0. Amarr ships aren't that good if you're looking for versatility, Minmatar and Gallente are more geared for that.

Who's your character in EVE, alfaroverall?

[alfaroverall]

It classically goes as:

Gallente: PWN Online
Minmatar: PVP Online
Caldari: PVE Online
Amarr: LOL Online

I heard Amarr got a boost, don't know. It's often heard to find supply for Amarr ships out in 0.0.

Who's your character in EVE, alfaroverall?
Skotia. I'm in FW on the Gallente side with about 6 mil SP, though I'm also in a corp within FW that has...higher long-term goals.

[Spades Felligan]

Cool, I'm in high sec these days doing missions to build up some cash. If you're ever interested in getting to empire wars or low sec (whichever one I'll be doing at the moment), contact me. Actually, I don't really know what I'll be doing next. My character's name is Drake Dracoli.

[Yamamoto]

Re-roll Gallente.

Reading this post makes me miss my Vexor. Easily my favorite ship, gorgeous and topped off with drones. <3

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2364/2278213981_19f586479e.jpg

[Rourke]

Re-roll Gallente.

Reading this post makes me miss my Vexor. Easily my favorite ship, gorgeous and topped off with drones. <3

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2364/2278213981_19f586479e.jpg

Been considering reupping my Eve acct. I only have a Hurricane I think right now. I do miss it though.

[Falcord]

ITT: Stupid people or just outdated, misinformed people.

Amarr is flavour of the month right now, or flavour of the year as EVE players like to say. If you want to be top of the food chain in PVP, go for Amarr.

Which doesn't mean you're gimped by rolling any other race. Lol at the guy who said EVE is about numbers. Bullshit, I've downed command ships in a t1 frigate gang of 4 months. In fact, thats what I liked doing the most.

If you go Caldari, you still have the Falcon, which is arguably the best gang ship in the game, and pretty good ships around. It's only you need to count on support, specifically people to take down the smaller stuff, as missiles are not too effective at undersize shooting.

That's pretty much it. I play minmatar and gallente, they're fine now. Rupture and Hurricane are awesome ships. Gallente are said to be gimped, but I do great with the taranis.

[freeman4550]

Nope

[5%Luck]

Depending on how far ya go Id say if you dont reroll on caladrari your fucked! Calderi have the BEST stats for ALL TRAINING. Unless your going to max charisma skills right from the start ya gota go slant eye just for the starting attributes.

Now depending on what kind of fights ya want to run there are 2 great choices. Find a fast ship add in inertia modifiers and load on some blasters and defender missles and under gun your target(get under their min range so you are the only one hitting)or get to a bigger ship with low manuverablity and massive gunz AND missles. Maxing out arour and seild resistances is tough but with any extra slots add resistance over extra HP.

Look through riggings and youll find some realy nice al;beit expensive designs. I was a hauler by trade so i went with warp stabilisation rigs with added core stabilizers for long treks through 0.0 with maxed out cheap ass minerals and sold in high sec for HUGE profits. Once I was built up isk wize I went after interdictors and speed! UInder ranging worked realy good. Just need enough Sheilds and Speed to get in under range and the bigger the ship the easier it is! Larger ships have longer targeting times! WOOT!

EDIT I cross trained minmtar for low inertia and better speed!

[Spades Felligan]

You really can't go wrong with any race.

[Thinkharder]

I used to play but it started to take up wayyyy to much time and then got a little stale.

You can't really go wrong with any race, they all have strengths and weaknesses but you can of course cross train, it doesn't take that long really.

[aruzo]

I only played for awhile but as soon as I heard about Darkfall, i've been a zombie on Forumfall!

[Kinsari]

I play, currently running a corp in faction warfare.

There really is no best race, though as has been said, amarr is the new FOTM. They aren't really over powered, but they used to be a terrible and recently got a few nice boosts which made them playable again and more than good enough to compete.

Caldari have a few good PvP ships, such as the blackbird, falcon, nighthawk, and cerberus. Rokh and Scorpion are good too, though overall they aren't really the best race to fly for a variety of PvP ships.

Gallente are all around awesome (that's me!)

Minmatar are good as well.

Overall there really is no one "win" race...it depends how you play what you have.

In answer to your question though....go with amarr, if you can.

[Uncle Mo]

Missiles got a huge boost with the speed nerf. I miss my nano'd Ishtar:D

[Lotharr]

You can have some fun with a Drake in PvP. Anyway, most Caldari ships are generally known for their success in PvE.

[Falcord]

You can have some fun with a Drake in PvP. Anyway, most Caldari ships are generally known for their success in PvE.

Or their success in group PVP.

Actually, Caldari are a great race for PVP. It's only that, for some reason, people tend to assume they should be good in solo PVP, and they are not. They are the "mages" of EvE. Support glass cannons that should never travel alone.

Of course there are exceptions, like the drake, which fits more in other races common strategies.

[Inja]

I'm running high sec missions in an Ishtar , my drone skills include minmatar and gallente t2 heavies , drone interfacing 5 , various e-war drones are a work in progress.
Gunnery i can use t2 medium blasters and rails.
Spaceship command i have gallente frig and cruiser at 5 , gallente battleship 4 , assault ships , covert ops , heavy assault ships , recon and gallente industrial at level 4.
Im working on armor compensation skills atm.
You currently have 101 skills and 22,561,982 skill points

[Spades Felligan]

If Darkfall turns out to suck, I'm considering re-starting the whole Forumfall corp, if you're not too comitted to your current corp, it's something worth considering.

[madwiese1]

i played, but dont know my shit, never made it past a hour playing and i have tried on 2 separtate free trials, about a year apart. didnt like that my joystick didnt control my ship :)

[Strangia]

As a general rule:

Caldari: If you want to be making like over 200mil a day from just a little bit of PvE, then a caldari missle boat will be perfect for you. Caldari are the best with missles, and if remember correctly (mind you, from over a year ago), Caldari could be effective snipers with their missles.

Amarr: Back when i played them, they were one thing: snipers. An amarr BS, fitted with lasers, and with all the proper skills setup, could snipe from over 200km. But, amarr were pretty gimped, because lasers were so shitty.

Gallente: Drones. Nuf' said. A gallente BS, with (if i remember correctly, gallente ships best used turrets?) turrets, and a full fleet of attack drones could kill most things.

Minmatar: Sure, your ship looks like a flying piece of shit with some duct tape on it. But damn is it fast. I never really learned about fitting minmatar during my time though, or I don't remember it.

I played Gallente my first time playing, roughly 4 years ago if i remember correctly. Then I played again about 2 years ago as Amarr. The thing to remember is, the game has several levels of interaction between players. If you are going for economy, it doesn't really matter how powerful your ship is. And then, if you want to get involved in huge intergalactic wars, often times you won't be the guy piloting the Battleships. Remember, a lot of the huge battles are decided by the smallest ships jamming the Dreadnoughts with electronic warfare.

I've been thinking about getting back into EvE, how is the political landscape going? I know the Goons kind of died off after the big BoB-Red Swarm war.

[alfaroverall]

You could possibly make a Forumfall alliance, since I think a good number of us are currently in corps (though sadly we can't be in a militia AND an alliance).

[Strangia]

You could possibly make a Forumfall alliance, since I think a good number of us are currently in corps (though sadly we can't be in a militia AND an alliance).

I would start playing again to join this.

[Falcord]

As a general rule:

Caldari: If you want to be making like over 200mil a day from just a little bit of PvE, then a caldari missle boat will be perfect for you. Caldari are the best with missles, and if remember correctly (mind you, from over a year ago), Caldari could be effective snipers with their missles.

Amarr: Back when i played them, they were one thing: snipers. An amarr BS, fitted with lasers, and with all the proper skills setup, could snipe from over 200km. But, amarr were pretty gimped, because lasers were so shitty.

Gallente: Drones. Nuf' said. A gallente BS, with (if i remember correctly, gallente ships best used turrets?) turrets, and a full fleet of attack drones could kill most things.

Minmatar: Sure, your ship looks like a flying piece of shit with some duct tape on it. But damn is it fast. I never really learned about fitting minmatar during my time though, or I don't remember it.

I played Gallente my first time playing, roughly 4 years ago if i remember correctly. Then I played again about 2 years ago as Amarr. The thing to remember is, the game has several levels of interaction between players. If you are going for economy, it doesn't really matter how powerful your ship is. And then, if you want to get involved in huge intergalactic wars, often times you won't be the guy piloting the Battleships. Remember, a lot of the huge battles are decided by the smallest ships jamming the Dreadnoughts with electronic warfare.

I've been thinking about getting back into EvE, how is the political landscape going? I know the Goons kind of died off after the big BoB-Red Swarm war.

This is pretty much correct, with a few updates and additions.

Caldari excel at Ewar, which is pretty valuable nowadays (specially the ECM branch in which they are specialized) so that makes them really useful in gangs.

Amarr are still kings of sniping (Zealot lol) and since their lasers got an incredible boost, and everyone is slower, yeah, they rock.

Gallente are drones and short range hybrid pummeling, yeah.

About minmatar, they're not as fast as they used to be, but they're still the fastest, and even more important: They're really versatile.

[Spades Felligan]

I've been thinking about getting back into EvE, how is the political landscape going? I know the Goons kind of died off after the big BoB-Red Swarm war.

Uh, the SC controls something like >1/3 of all of 0.0 now. War between AAA and Goonswarm just broke out.

Map link. (http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?304723)

[orince]

nah.. but i know one of the developers at ccp island :D

[Strangia]

Man, best part of EvE was how lax the developers were. They let so many scams go through, it really made the "Space-Libertarianism" come to life.

[Desperado[1G]]

My character name is 'Antheon'

I've only got about 2.6m sp though :(

How does the faction war stuff work? I'm ready to start rocking some fools

[Deten]

Never played, I think its TOO open for me

[fermer101]

I played the trial but didn't like it.

[alfaroverall]

;2547069']My character name is 'Antheon'

I've only got about 2.6m sp though :(

How does the faction war stuff work? I'm ready to start rocking some fools
Simple enough. You join the militia, either as an individual or as a corp, and you are at war with the opposing militias by default (Gallente and Minmatar opposes Caldari and Amarr). This means you can attack militia enemies freely without security status penalty. It also means that they could attack you freely in high sec, except in opposing militia's high sec you are attacked by faction militia (weaker than CONCORD, but still fairly potent). You then join a militia chat, equivalent to an alliance chat. That's more or less it; there's some extra content that you can engage in, like plexing and FW missions, but that's pretty much the gist of it.

[Desperado[1G]]

are there any rewards for it?

[alfaroverall]

;2547543']are there any rewards for it?
Not really; it's a nice way to gain faction standing (plexing gives substantial faction gains, much faster than running missions until you get a storyline mission), which can be useful, but that's about it. It's just about the funnest thing you can really do as a semi-newb, imo, since it gives you fairly easy access to PvP, which is why I think it's a good idea.

[Desperado[1G]]

I'll give it a try

I had a friend in minmatar space, so I've kinda screwed my amarr/caldari standings by doing their missions. Faction standing only affects what level missions you get right? I'm not missing out on much by joining Minmatar while flying amarr/caldari ships?

[alfaroverall]

;2547926']I'll give it a try

I had a friend in minmatar space, so I've kinda screwed my amarr/caldari standings by doing their missions. Faction standing only affects what level missions you get right? I'm not missing out on much by joining Minmatar while flying amarr/caldari ships?
Nope, nothing at all. The only real thing is that you're not going to be getting LP for ships that you actually fly when you run missions (you'll probably be running them for Republic Fleet, as they're about the best employer in that area). And believe me, you'll be running missions...something has to finance your PvP losses :P The LP thing isn't all that big of a deal, though; I don't think you're expecting to get a Navy Issue ship sometime in the extremely near future anyway.

Sure hope you have some Republic Fleet standing, heh.

Do note that the Minmatar-Amarr war is quite a ways less active than the Gallente-Caldari war, primarily because the Amarr largely just don't show up. So...if you have enough standing to join one of those sides (I think it's 0.5 minimum) you'll get more conflict that way.

Do note that this is indeed (to some extent) a veiled plug, as you would most likely join the Gallente, not the Caldari, and so we'd have one more pilot on our side. I have no shame about that.

[Skellon]

I am Caldari, I will be continuing with my subsription to EvE whilst kicking off a new sub to DF, bring on the sandbox!

This is what games should really aspire to, freedom, choice.

'Themepark MMO's' are very dated imo and it is high time that the sandbox game showed itself as the natural next step in MMO's.

Next time you are comparing the gfx of DF to another MMO, look at the other MMO and write a 'cool s**t they could have done' list, and right then you will wonder why you still defend such a dated formula, as the likes of EvE and DF have it all and more.

[Desperado[1G]]

Nope, nothing at all. The only real thing is that you're not going to be getting LP for ships that you actually fly when you run missions (you'll probably be running them for Republic Fleet, as they're about the best employer in that area). And believe me, you'll be running missions...something has to finance your PvP losses :P The LP thing isn't all that big of a deal, though; I don't think you're expecting to get a Navy Issue ship sometime in the extremely near future anyway.

Sure hope you have some Republic Fleet standing, heh.

Do note that the Minmatar-Amarr war is quite a ways less active than the Gallente-Caldari war, primarily because the Amarr largely just don't show up. So...if you have enough standing to join one of those sides (I think it's 0.5 minimum) you'll get more conflict that way.

Do note that this is indeed (to some extent) a veiled plug, as you would most likely join the Gallente, not the Caldari, and so we'd have one more pilot on our side. I have no shame about that.

The thing is, since I started out as an Amarr and did a lot of minmatar missions, I have a negative standing with everyone. -1.1 with Amarr, -.7 with Caldari, and -.5 with minmatar and gallente

If there's no fighting going on on the amarr/minmatar front, I might as well go set up shop in gallente space and fight for them. I hope it doesn't take too long to get .5 =\

[alfaroverall]

;2548140']The thing is, since I started out as an Amarr and did a lot of minmatar missions, I have a negative standing with everyone. -1.1 with Amarr, -.7 with Caldari, and -.5 with minmatar and gallente

If there's no fighting going on on the amarr/minmatar front, I might as well go set up shop in gallente space and fight for them. I hope it doesn't take too long to get .5 =\
Train connections to 3 and then I think diplomacy (the one that increases standings to hostile agents) by 1 or 2 levels. Shouldn't take too long if you do that.

[Deten]

Im holding out for DF :)

[Desperado[1G]]

social skills doesn't apply when enlisting in the militia

[Desperado[1G]]

bumpin dis

So yea, I'm training Minmatar frigate and projectile skills now because I'm an indecisive newbie

Does anyone else fight in the faction war? I've flown around in a couple contested systems and haven't seen ANY kind of faction battle going on.

[Sethorin]

I played EVE for 2months I think, maybe closer to 3 months. My goal was to eventually be able to fly the stealth bomber missile boats 8) All the skill points needed to have all the skills that I wanted before I flew around a 30,000,000.00cr stealth bomber would take 216days to train, or something close to that. But for the few months I did play, my missile boat was fun.

I was a Caldari and my main focus was missiles and shields. I flew around and did missions in my missile boat. I did missions fine solo. I had a friend that started with me, he was a Gallante? He focused on drones and turrets. We could do some T3 missions after about a month of faction grinding and waiting for sp's.

I also picked up salvaging and got me a destroyer? 4 magnets on one side and 4 salvagers on the other 8) Was great for makeing money. My friend picked up some mineing skills and we made good money that way too, him mineing and dropping the canisters, I picked em up and hauled when my hauler was full. We didn't really do any pvp.

1. We were only a couple months in with only a few million SP.
2. We agreed to work towards a higher goal before pvping.
3. We didnt want to lose our current ships and have to fly around the slow ass T1 frigates again, since we were broke most of the time.

[alfaroverall]

;2584386']bumpin dis

So yea, I'm training Minmatar frigate and projectile skills now because I'm an indecisive newbie

Does anyone else fight in the faction war? I've flown around in a couple contested systems and haven't seen ANY kind of faction battle going on.
You don't just see it happening out in the open. Most of it happens when two roaming fleets run into one another. The whole occupancy thing is, sadly, pretty much meaningless.

Also, Seth, 7 months to fly a stealth bomber? That seems pretty high...

[krugar]

41+M SP gallente here, but i have quite a few carebear skills (7.7M in Science).

the thing about caldari missile boats is the delayed damage. in a fleet battle, you'd be better off in a scorp (ewar) or rokh (rails), because if you sit in a raven with cruise missiles, the focus fire target is dead before your missiles reach it. but since the cruise raven (or CNR) was THE pve ship, a lot of people flew caldari and were bitching about how useless their missile skills were in pvp (you can still go anti-support in a cruise raven...).

generally speaking, shield tanked ships do not lend themselves well to solo pvp, because the tackle modules reside in the mid slots, same as your shield. that being said, one of the most coveted pvp ships, the vagabond, was originally designed for an armor tank and has been flown as a speed tank with shield buffer until they nerfed speed tanking.
(quick explanation: missiles have an explosion velocity, if your ship goes double that, you take no damage even if the missiles themselves reach you. vagabonds were ridiculously fast, so they would not take any damage at all until tackled. so basically you ran around in circles with tons of hostile missiles trying to catch up to you. if you made one mistake and an enemy tackler got to you, you were pretty much toast)

i never liked speed tanking, but ironically i havent played much since the patch. so i cant really go into detail on how small scale pvp is now, but from what i've seen on the test server before the patch, assault frigates now are the new solo vessel of choice (unless you gatecamp in lowsec, because the sentries will vaporize you). there were only a few setups i couldnt kill or run from in my ishkur. but there never was a doubt: ishkurs own :D

[Vaalsha]

hahahaha Caldari noob.
Whats your ingame name? I want to spankify you!

[Sethorin]

You don't just see it happening out in the open. Most of it happens when two roaming fleets run into one another. The whole occupancy thing is, sadly, pretty much meaningless.

Also, Seth, 7 months to fly a stealth bomber? That seems pretty high...

No, not to just fly a stealth bomber, like I stated in my post.

That was the total time for ALL the skills that I wanted to train before I started flying a stealth bomber.

For instance, I didn't want to be flying a stealth bomber and still useing T1 light missile launchers....

[Aragoni]

I'll maybe return to my Gallente Cruiser next month, when I get enough money (really poor atm). :)