Mo vs df

[Darkened]

Hey if Darkfall is not released on 25th of feb and they move it to summer, Mortal online will be out around the same time, if this happens what game will you play?

[retrospect]

This question is retarded. You are asking what game people prefer on the forums for that game. WTF do you think most people are going to vote?

[Darkened]

I think alot of people are wanting a game like darkfall, mortal online is pretty much a copy but made by a proper company.

i wanted to see how many would think of mortal online if pushed back again.

[cwliias]

...how far back do you think mortal is gonna be pushed back?... im thinking at least early 2010

[LigthRise]

mortal online? that game isnt even a game yet. and im not calling it vaporware.

[Dhmitris]

I'll stay with DF anything else just aint enough!:cool:

[ARCHON83]

I will play df, then try mo. If both come out about same time. Well then mo i guess, some rl friends more on to mo, me liek dfo more though.

[Darkened]

Due for release is summer.
stop thinking so literal.
if you dont want to answer the question don't enter and post crap.
if you have a different question make your own poll.
if you do want to answer, leave feedback that isnt like OMG YOUR GAY.

[Badem]

I agree this post is retarded, can we have it moved to retards erm beginners section?

I will play both DFO and MO coz I iz Leet Badass

(no i aint really)

[Darkened]

its funny how most of the shit being posted is by 2008/09.

i read these forums but rarely post enless im really bored, and i see alot of people hating on '08ers 09ers'.
now i know why.

[Wonderboy2402]

Advanced Darkfall discussions are Advanced. :bang:

[Csunny]

aion

[Nerathas]

MO still has no release date, god knows when that will be released.
So you cannot compare can you....

Just be glad 2 of these mmo's are in the make id say.

[Abremalist]

I might, like the fact that Mortal have a 'Deva'. There are some fresh thinking going on there as well. Will they give me a free trial?

Q: Can I have more than one character on my account?
A: Yes. By creating an account you create your own Deva, or “shared soul”, in the game. Your Deva can have several characters connected to it. The Deva grows in power as each of your characters do and can even learn skills that all your characters will benefit from.

Of course, I like one-character-per-server better.

Mortal have the problem of an amateurish website. The text is not reviewed and is missing in all the wrong places. It feels like they have a weak 'concept' relating to their game-world.

If they'll release this summer I'll be suprised.

[Milenko_]

by the time mo is out or even in close beta, dfo will be out, have a solid player base, and be patched a bunch of times to fix any problems and have more content add'd

so i would rather play a game which is played tested and patched then a game which will still be in close beta, if that

too many kids these days read about games which are still in the idea stages and think they are gonna be out in weeks

[Milenko_]

its funny how most of the shit being posted is by 2008/09.

i read these forums but rarely post enless im really bored, and i see alot of people hating on '08ers 09ers'.
now i know why.

block posting right for 08's and 09's until game launched amirite?

[white magi]

Hey if Darkfall is not released on 25th of feb and they move it to summer, Mortal online will be out around the same time, if this happens what game will you play?

Chose "other" because I will be playing BOTH, since you didn't have that option in there.

They both look good. Honestly, MO's graphics intrigue me more and it's more my style. DF is too cartoony for my taste, however I think MO has levels which I despise.

I find DF more interesting overall but that's partly due to lack of info on MO's part. However, if DF turns out is to be nothing more than a PvP game full of hot sweaty fat man nerds pew pewing all day then I'll probably be forced to wait for MO.

I've waited 10 years since UO for a game similar to it, I can probably wait longer if need be. If I wanted to play a pew pew PvP game, i would play gears of war on 360 or a free game like Guild Wars. I'm looking for a World Simulator type of experience like UO, not just a "pvp conquest game" or Shadowbane part 2.

If this game turns out to be Shadowbane part 2, it would be an epic waste of my time as this is the longest game I've ever waited for. I first heard about and have been waiting for this game since 2006. SB and Neocron were the other 2 and those were 1 year each tops. Ironically, Neocron was an FPS game that first released overseas and allowed Americans on their server and it flopped bad. The lag there was evil.

[Nuzor]

posting in this epicly stoopid thread.

[ness123]

Both.

[cybernegy]

Mortal Online isn't even close. Summer 2009 is a lie.

[Grimpy]

Not all 08ers are bad ¬_¬ Some of us have been around longer than that just not had any reason to register.
But either way, answer to your question is DF.

[Estou]

your asking about DF vs MO.... on the DF forums?

[Darkened]

as i said, im not talking on literal terms, im talking about if MO is out this summer, and darkfall is out this summer. im talking on these terms only.

and MO is skill based to.

and yes it's on the darkfall forums... why would i post it on MO forums when i been following this game for 3 years.
how long have you?
jan2009.
so shutup

[AnsgarIsen]

That's fairly easy: I'm playing other stuff now and I will keep doing so until DF surfaces. I'm keeping an eye on it for years (since some early stage of SB beta, if I remember correctly) but that doesn't mean I'm a slave :)

MO I can rule out for me. That's not because it might be a bad game. I just can't stand any asian style graphics at all, just a matter of taste thus.

[Darkened]

Not all 08ers are bad ¬_¬ Some of us have been around longer than that just not had any reason to register.
But either way, answer to your question is DF.

Its the same with everything, you get arses and some nice people, most in my experience on here when i posted have been complete idiots posting needless crap and letting there internet anger out over a damn question.

[rubik]

aion
/signed
its worth a try if DF wont be released in february

[Strontyd]

Hey if Darkfall is not released on 25th of feb and they move it to summer, Mortal online will be out around the same time, if this happens what game will you play?

not going to bother with your poll, but i will say that MO wont be out in summer, it will be pushed back and back and i think your be lucky if you see it next year, by which time they will release with many promised features missing or abandoned or plain broken.

and your asking it on the DF forum ya piloc, what do you think your going to get in the results of your poll. OOps sorry forgot your just posting pointless polls with shit threads for the sake of posting.

[sylverCode]

MO is NOT going to be released this summer.

[Bling_T]

your asking about DF vs MO.... on the DF forums?

There is a MO vs DF poll on the MO-forums as well, guess who is the winner there...

I read both forums (I guess a lot of people do) but IMHO Darkfall is miles ahead.

[Darkened]

again
third time now. i KNOW IT WONT BE RELEASED THIS SUMMER
im not talking in literal terms im talking as if IT WILL.

dont come here and post needless crap

i am reporting every single troll in heres post.
so everyone who has wrote 'OMG WHY POST THIS PILOCK PRICK TWAT' etc
will be reported.


and aion looks awesome just watched the beta teaser

[orince]

MO is still in pre alpha.. fucking ripoff thats what it is

[Sinnes]

MO is still in pre alpha.. fucking ripoff thats what it is

God people on this forum are retarded. Atleast MO has that in its favor, but then again.. all the retards that dont like Darkfall will invade the Mortal Online forums after the DF release.

[Darkened]

Im quite excited by all the new mmos comming out, Darkfall looks to be the best at the moment, however mortal online pretty much has copied darkfalls features, and it has better graphics, if DF fails, ill be looking at that or aion, i heard blizzard was making another somewhere.

[Sinnes]

however mortal online pretty much has copied darkfalls features

What features? That haven't been done in a game before DF?

[Galendra]

Hey if Darkfall is not released on 25th of feb and they move it to summer, Mortal online will be out around the same time, if this happens what game will you play?

what... feb 25??

you are kidding me, i was away from forums for a week and the release got pushed back?!

:bang::bang:

[Darkened]

What features? That haven't been done in a game before DF?

ok well everywhere has a origin, but this is darkfall and MO discussion not uo and darkfall

[Sinnes]

ok well everywhere has a origin, but this is darkfall and MO discussion not uo and darkfall

The MO Devs have stated that they are inspired by UO. So what you meant in your previous post was that MO has ripped features from UO, just like DF has.

Thanks for your time.

[The Dark Zealot]

they are making a game that focuses on a certain gamer, not everyone like "proper" companies would do. so go play your "Proper" game if you like your game being screwed up by all the 13 year olds that complain about losing their stuff, because if 13 year olds are > 50% of the population of MO they will listen, darkfall would just throw an old boot and say screw off

Indie>crushing the creators dreams to make money

[Darkened]

they are making a game that focuses on a certain gamer, not everyone like "proper" companies would do. so go play your "Proper" game if you like your game being screwed up by all the 13 year olds that complain about losing their stuff, because if 13 year olds are > 50% of the population of MO they will listen, darkfall would just throw an old boot and say screw off

and as i said, i been following darkfall for 3 years, ill be trying darkfall first.

then if its crud ill go try MO.

so no.

[Sinnes]

they are making a game that focuses on a certain gamer, not everyone like "proper" companies would do. so go play your "Proper" game if you like your game being screwed up by all the 13 year olds that complain about losing their stuff, because if 13 year olds are > 50% of the population of MO they will listen, darkfall would just throw an old boot and say screw off

MO is privately funded, and nothing is pointing towards them changing any basic feature like full loot.

[Enderd]

I will probably try all of the following (and stick with the one I like best):
Darkfall online
Mortal online
Earthrise

I know Earthrise is not the same genre, but it has similar concepts. And Earthrise is entering Beta now too.

-Ender

[Darkened]

The MO Devs have stated that they are inspired by UO. So what you meant in your previous post was that MO has ripped features from UO, just like DF has.

Thanks for your time.

ok....
and what does this have to do with DF vs MO

we know both games take ideas from UO.

my initial question was the fact of if it was pushed back further, would you chose MO or DF.

if you have nothing better than to sit here posting about origins of games then get out

[The Dark Zealot]

privatly funded? what about the 4 big ass logos on their front page?

[The Dark Zealot]

and stop saying that MO copied UO not DF, They took note of the huge hype around DF, noticed the delays and tried to take control of the market

and if thats not enough the races suck, you can either be the mongols, the pygmy, german. and then you can be a orc and a elf...

[Sinnes]

ok....
and what does this have to do with DF vs MO

we know both games take ideas from UO.

my initial question was the fact of if it was pushed back further, would you chose MO or DF.

if you have nothing better than to sit here posting about origins of games then get out

Oh god. You said


however mortal online pretty much has copied darkfalls features

Which is simply not true. I called you on that and now you are just rambling on about nothing.

[UzeroK]

There are some things I personally don't like about Mortal Online like:
- multiple character slots
- mounted archery and magic
- item insurance
- onehits (one of the devs mentioned it in a IRC channel)

And there are some things that are just ridiculous, like 10 hitboxes per player and no latency problems... But we'll see some time, DFO is quite plausible but MO is a utopia right now, sounds like Massively Multiplayer Online Unreal Tournament with skill based sandbox system.

[Sinnes]

and stop saying that MO copied UO not DF, They took note of the huge hype around DF, noticed the delays and tried to take control of the market

and if thats not enough the races suck, you can either be the mongols, the pygmy, german. and then you can be a orc and a elf...

Since the CEO of Star vault has said he was a big fan of UO you'd think he'd base his game on his experiences there. Of course the constant PR/delay failures of DF might have given them more hope of succeeding tho.

[WolfHammer]

Hey if Darkfall is not released on 25th of feb and they move it to summer, Mortal online will be out around the same time, if this happens what game will you play?

MO has just about ended its Alpha stage... There is no way it will be out this summer... Reading the news on MO has my belief that a Q4 09 or Q1 10 release is to be expected at the earliest.

[The Dark Zealot]

though ill be loyal to DFO till the end(when I find out if it sucks) I have to admit that MO graphics arnt that bad

[The Dark Zealot]

Another thingI dont like about MO is the DEVA skills, if one character learns it all of them do, wtf? its bad enough you can have more characters but cross skills?

[Sinnes]

privatly funded? what about the 4 big ass logos on their front page?

From the FAQ:

Star Vault is a newly formed independent game company in Sweden, and with independent we mean self-owned

To put it simple: we have chosen to be independent as it gives us the opportunity to develop games without the boundaries of a large publisher.

[coder1024]

easy answer. DFO.

[peertje]

This question is retarded. You are asking what game people prefer on the forums for that game. WTF do you think most people are going to vote?

that's not what he asked, read better retard

[The Dark Zealot]

that doesnt answer my original question, WHAT ABOUT THE 4 BIG ASS LOGOS ON THEIR FRONT PAGE

[The Dark Zealot]

I dont have to explain the epic failure that is MO to you people im going to bed

[Sinnes]

that doesnt answer my original question, WHAT ABOUT THE 4 BIG ASS LOGOS ON THEIR FRONT PAGE

:bang:

Epic = They have bought a license for the UT3 engine.

Grome and Speedtree = development tools they are using

Intel= They are probably using Intel hardware.

Was that so goddamn hard?

[Mhorham]

none of you will choose MO because it wont be anywhere near ready yet.

[KyesaRRi]

Another thingI dont like about MO is the DEVA skills, if one character learns it all of them do, wtf? its bad enough you can have more characters but cross skills?

Yes but all may not be able to use that skill, read the damn site. This isn't the place to bash other games, have a good night and lets hope you are less cranky in the morning.

[Lachrymose]

i don't understand why people can't hope both games will be a success... they are both ffa pvp. they are both full loot. they are both made by devs who played UO and want to recreate a true fantasy sandbox MMO. they go about slightly different ways of doing things, but whichever one ends up being better, at least we know they will both be better than any of the other shit out there.

[Mhorham]

i don't understand why people can't hope both games will be a success... they are both ffa pvp. they are both full loot. they are both made by devs who played UO and want to recreate a true fantasy sandbox MMO. they go about slightly different ways of doing things, but whichever one ends up being better, at least we know they will both be better than any of the other shit out there.

Look at the nature of the thread and its title. Does it say are you going to play both games?? No it does not it says if Aventurine does not pull their collective head out of their ass will you move on.

You MO defenders need to consider that you are not saying wow two great games. You are saying screw DF look at this instead.

[Khyrsanth]

I really doubt that MO will be released before DFO, even if DFO will take longer than february this year. DFO is near release, MO is quite new and haven't even announced a date.

But i'll try out both i guess. Like the graphics of MO a lot, but the concept of DFO sounds better to me atm.

[Sinnes]

You MO defenders need to consider that you are not saying wow two great games. You are saying screw DF look at this instead.

I was not saying screw DF, i will definately try it. I was calling people out on things they were mistaken about.

[Lachrymose]

Look at the nature of the thread and its title. Does it say are you going to play both games?? No it does not it says if Aventurine does not pull their collective head out of their ass will you move on.

You MO defenders need to consider that you are not saying wow two great games. You are saying screw DF look at this instead.
well, obviously i didn't read the OP. i read the title, which looked to me like this was another thread asking whether DF or MO will be better. if DF was pushed back to summer, i would try both. i have all intentions of trying both, and regardless of which comes first (assuming i'm alive when they release), i will play both of them and decide which is better once i've actually played them.

[Aerias]

Hahaha, Mortal online.

Running the Unreal 3 engine for an mmo and having a seamless game world, yea right. The game will run like absolute rubbish. They will take away all the features that makes darkfall so immersive, such as the 1 char per server and dropping all your loot and zoomable / toggable third person, it'll simply be a watered down Darkfall.

And it obviously won't be released until next year.

I voted Darkfall.

[Darkened]

Look at the nature of the thread and its title. Does it say are you going to play both games?? No it does not it says if Aventurine does not pull their collective head out of their ass will you move on.

You MO defenders need to consider that you are not saying wow two great games. You are saying screw DF look at this instead.

hes not defending MO, hes saying DF and MO both look good, and again to all the morons who posted saying IT WONT BE OUT TILL year 3000.
stfu.

the title is if DF is pushed back and MO is out the summer then what would you prefer.


i could title it if DF and MO are out at Xmas what would you pick.

it bares no relevence, its about they are both out at the same time what game would you play.
thats all. cant be arsed to repeat myself to the twats who keep comming in here being like OMG NOT RELEASED or OMG UO IS THE BEST.

bye.

[GAMEINFORMER]

Why do you people think that Mortal Online dev's just started working on their sandbox mmo?

They have been working on Mortal Online for a number of years and just let the gaming community know about their sandbox mmo just a year or so ago.

The thing that the Mortal Online dev's did right was not string a forum community along for many years with let down after let down after let down.

I do like the idea of both games, Mo and DF. MO will be closer to what classic UO was than DF will.

I did not mean to cause anyone any real life distress from what I said. I know how very sensitive and fragile you all are, the DF forum community.
:lmao:

[NagiSoi]

DFO all the way. I don't like few things about MO

[Mo0rbid]

mortal online? that game isnt even a game yet. and im not calling it vaporware.

oh the irony

[xWebb]

its funny how most of the shit being posted is by 2008/09.

i read these forums but rarely post enless im really bored, and i see alot of people hating on '08ers 09ers'.
now i know why.

Don't stereotype. We aren't all retarded bastards. Few of us have brains.
I've followed this game for years. Just never bothered registering on forums. I'm a lazy ass. =]

[Skraeck]

will play the game that have the most "UO feeling". only time will tell,,,

[Lachrymose]

will play the game that have the most "UO feeling". only time will tell,,,
MO seems to be ripping off UO more than DF is since they are using the exact same flagging system as opposed to a racial faction based one.

[UzeroK]

Don't stereotype. We aren't all retarded bastards. Few of us have brains.
I've followed this game for years. Just never bothered registering on forums. I'm a lazy ass. =]

Never forget, your penis length is equal to the value of time you sent posting in this forum!!! (if you give a shit)


Well, why do people prefer Burger King more than McDonalds? Both is fast food with a similar choice of products, quite equal nutritional values and quite equal service. So why bother choosing between BK or McDonalds?
Might be just a matter of taste? Think about it.

[Domal]

mortal online actually looks like a good game.

[Lachrymose]

Well, why do people prefer Burger King more than McDonalds? Both is fast food with a similar choice of products, quite equal nutritional values and quite equal service. So why bother choosing between BK or McDonalds?
Might be just a matter of taste? Think about it.
exactly. so why choose BK or McD's when you haven't actually seen any of their food, you've only peeked at their menus? the menu might look good, but when you bite into a whopper and someone's pubes are in it, i think you might decide to go to McD's from then on (or maybe you'll be a BK fan for life).

[Stewker]

Ok, wth is mortal online??

**goes to look it up online**

edit: holy shit that's awesome looking. Hmmm... guess time will tell what I'll be playing. I voted DF in the poll though.

[UzeroK]

So far we only know some of the ingredients of the menus. If some of those ingredients give me indigestion or diarrhoea I try to avoid meals with those ingredients. But enough of food analogy.

We'll have to wait and see. At the moment I can only say that I personally don't like some of MOs features. I might dislike DFO even more than MO when I played both games, I can't tell what might be and what might not be.

[HauptmannHP]

Moved to OT.

[Haeso]

Have fun waiting for MO even longer - it's not coming out in the summer.

Oh come on hauptmann, we don't want this crap.

[sorros]

Trial for both. Whichever is better, I play.

[Jakah]

darkfall FTW! burn the heretic!

[Signus]

Hey if Darkfall is not released on 25th of feb and they move it to summer, Mortal online will be out around the same time, if this happens what game will you play?

Mortal Online won't be out for a long long time, if it even comes out.

[rage.against]

if DF is pushed back to summer they've dug their own grave (this is assuming MO DOES make their release, there's no reason so far to think they won't they've met ALL their deadlines to keep them on track for a late summer release)

[Haeso]

if DF is pushed back to summer they've dug their own grave (this is assuming MO DOES make their release, there's no reason so far to think they won't they've met ALL their deadlines to keep them on track for a late summer release)

Haha, naive. It's not coming in the summer, and a very good portion of DF's fanbase, if not a majority is here for conquest on top of the rest of the features, not so much in MO.

[rage.against]

Mortal Online won't be out for a long long time, if it even comes out.
MO has made every deadline in order to make the summer release, they even have a timeline they need to follow to make it and its there for the public to see


... and they are already giving beta accounts out (beta is scheduled for the end of spring.)

(lol i think they challenged the community to dota matches on the 22nd, and all the winners get beta accounts, I must say, they atleast know DF exists)

[rage.against]

Haha, naive. It's not coming in the summer, and a very good portion of DF's fanbase, if not a majority is here for conquest on top of the rest of the features, not so much in MO.

Well I'm here for the combat, and there's more evidence that MO will come out in the summer than DF coming out on february (they plan to test a client, which apparently can hold more than ANY other well-funded mmo client in history, in 1 month...)

[Sinnes]

:lmao:

I would like to see Aventurine challenging the community to a DOTA match

[Haeso]

Well I'm here for the combat, and there's more evidence that MO will come out in the summer than DF coming out on february (they plan to test a client, which apparently can hold more than ANY other well-funded mmo client in history, in 1 month...)

When it doesn't come out in the summer, and we're all playing DF, remind me to laugh at you fool.

[alfaroverall]

1. Seriously, this is the Darkfall forums. Stupid question is stupid.
2. This question has been asked many many times around these parts despite the fact that this is the Darkfall forums.
3. You seriously don't expect any delay from Mortal? Really? Even though they're supposedly only in alpha right now, which means the game isn't even feature complete?
4. rage.against: a client holds 1 user. A server holds more. And Darkfall's server(s) will hold nowhere near as many players as an EVE server. EVE has broken 45,000 simultaneous and exceeds 40,000 simultaneous pretty much every day. It also has a single star system, Jita, that breaks 1,000 users pretty much daily and holds at over 500 pretty much 23/7 (the other hour is downtime). Jita now has fairly little lag issues, and most large battles do not actually lag all that bad anymore (though sadly the nodes out in FW territory don't seem to be as good as the nodes out in 0.0).

Also, Aventurine has said that they've done virtualizations of 10,000 simultaneous users using bots that run the same way a client would. They're not all across the world, true, and so latency is far less, but they still login to the server through the login server, run around on the actual server, fight, etc. (Server strain is also related in no way to latency, unless a latency correction script is being used). They've said there hasn't been much trouble. I don't see any reason for you to speculate to the contrary, especially when Mortal's plan seems to be to simply not have a beta, since it's in alpha only 5-7 months before it plans to launch.

[GAMEINFORMER]

Here is from the MO FAQ... http://www.mortalonline.com/faq

Q: When will it be released?
A: During summer 2009

Q: How long has Mortal Online been under development?
A: We started planning Mortal Online back in early 2002, but the project really took off in 2005.

Read first before you just guess :lmao:

[Haeso]

Here is from the MO FAQ... http://www.mortalonline.com/faq

Q: When will it be released?
A: During summer 2009

Q: How long has Mortal Online been under development?
A: We started planning Mortal Online back in early 2002, but the project really took off in 2005.

Read first before you just guess :lmao:

...

lol, just lol.

[Largion]

Mortal Online won't be out for a long long time, if it even comes out.

Im sure I have read this about some outher game. I just cant remember the name. :D

And Im going to play DF ofc.

[alfaroverall]

Here is from the MO FAQ... http://www.mortalonline.com/faq

Q: When will it be released?
A: During summer 2009

Q: How long has Mortal Online been under development?
A: We started planning Mortal Online back in early 2002, but the project really took off in 2005.

Read first before you just guess :lmao:
OK, so they have 2 more years than I speculated. By the same token, Darkfall started planning back in 2000, but the project really took off in late 2003. And yet people still cite a 7+ year development time against it...hmm...

[DarkseeD]

It's funny to see how DF fans are screaming vaporware at MO and seem to have completely forgotten how furiously they not too long ago tried to prove that DF is not vapor.

Will MO make the Summer 09 release? Who knows. I think the real question is how good the game will be when it realeases. Be that in '09 or '10 or whenever.

Oh and someone mentioned that it's a bad idea to use the U3 engine for a MMO. Care to provide some information and proof to back that statement up? As far as I know the Unreal 3 engine is one of if not the best game engine to work with and is flexible and modifiable like nothing ever seen before. Why else would Epic be earning so much cash from selling the licence for it?

[Sabbathius]

We know little of MO, but they seem to be moving fast, and communicating with the customers. So I went with MO, it has all the markings of being a better game. DF will just hold me over, unless it is delayed again, until MO release.

[Haeso]

It's funny to see how DF fans are screaming vaporware at MO and seem to have completely forgotten how furiously they not too long ago tried to prove that DF is not vapor.

Will MO make the Summer 09 release? Who knows. I think the real question is how good the game will be when it realeases. Be that in '09 or '10 or whenever.

Oh and someone mentioned that it's a bad idea to use the U3 engine for a MMO. Care to provide some information and proof to back that statement up? As far as I know the Unreal 3 engine is one of if not the best game engine to work with and is flexible and modifiable like nothing ever seen before. Why else would Epic be earning so much cash from selling the licence for it?

Who said vapouware, it's just naive to think it's coming out this soon.

[GAMEINFORMER]

It's funny to see how DF fans are screaming vaporware at MO and seem to have completely forgotten how furiously they not too long ago tried to prove that DF is not vapor.

Will MO make the Summer 09 release? Who knows. I think the real question is how good the game will be when it realeases. Be that in '09 or '10 or whenever.

Oh and someone mentioned that it's a bad idea to use the U3 engine for a MMO. Care to provide some information and proof to back that statement up? As far as I know the Unreal 3 engine is one of if not the best game engine to work with and is flexible and modifiable like nothing ever seen before. Why else would Epic be earning so much cash from selling the licence for it?

/Agree

Also DF took long due to them making their own engine. MO saved much time using the unreal 3 engine, good choice imo.

[Phratello]

We know little of MO, but they seem to be moving fast, and communicating with the customers. So I went with MO, it has all the markings of being a better game. DF will just hold me over, unless it is delayed again, until MO release.

I'm sure that MO will make the summer release as they are in BETA NOW and if they aren't I'm most positive that they will delay the game months before July-August rather then waiting a week before it, lol.

[Esudar]

It's funny to see how DF fans are screaming vaporware at MO and seem to have completely forgotten how furiously they not too long ago tried to prove that DF is not vapor.

Will MO make the Summer 09 release? Who knows. I think the real question is how good the game will be when it realeases. Be that in '09 or '10 or whenever.

Oh and someone mentioned that it's a bad idea to use the U3 engine for a MMO. Care to provide some information and proof to back that statement up? As far as I know the Unreal 3 engine is one of if not the best game engine to work with and is flexible and modifiable like nothing ever seen before. Why else would Epic be earning so much cash from selling the licence for it?


whatever. is VAPORWAREZ!!!!!!111111

[Sabbathius]

I'm sure that MO will make the summer release as they are in BETA NOW and if they aren't I'm most positive that they will delay the game months before July-August rather then waiting a week before it, lol.

Yeah, I haven't been following MO much, but I only hear good things, they seem to be a very level headed and communicative bunch who actually stick to the schedule. It'll be hilarious if MO comes out with all the same features, but looking a hell of a lot better, and torpedoes Darkfall. Hopefully they make the 2009 release, it's pretty slim pickings in MMOs this year, and most of them are space or sci-fi, like Jumpgate and Black Prophecy, Stargate and Earthrise, which is fine, but I always had a soft spot for fantasy.

[orince]

why should ppl vote for MO or other ? retarded

[Nexus]

L2spot the difference between the games OP.

[Haeso]

Yeah, I haven't been following MO much, but I only hear good things, they seem to be a very level headed and communicative bunch who actually stick to the schedule. It'll be hilarious if MO comes out with all the same features, but looking a hell of a lot better, and torpedoes Darkfall. Hopefully they make the 2009 release, it's pretty slim pickings in MMOs this year, and most of them are space or sci-fi, like Jumpgate and Black Prophecy, Stargate and Earthrise, which is fine, but I always had a soft spot for fantasy.

honestly, even if it does, I won't play it. MO doesn't interest me at all, huge difference in features.

[Phratello]

honestly, even if it does, I won't play it. MO doesn't interest me at all, huge difference in features.

I don't see any...

[Haeso]

I don't see any...

are... are you blind?

[Sabbathius]

honestly, even if it does, I won't play it. MO doesn't interest me at all, huge difference in features.

Not as much as you think. The only turnoff for MO for me is no ship combat at release. They said probably at a later date, but not at release. Other than that, about the same in terms of features, except 1st person for combat, both melee and ranged, but that's only fair. Graphically head and shoulders better, Unreal 3 engine, though I'm not sure if it's seamless or zoned, I can live with both as long as zones aren't done stupidly, like in AoC, Assassin's Creed had better transitions.

One thing though, if BOTH of them flop, that would REALLY suck. I mean, epically. Without those two, we're years away from a game like that.

[Haeso]

Not as much as you think. The only turnoff for MO for me is no ship combat at release. They said probably at a later date, but not at release. Other than that, about the same in terms of features, except 1st person for combat, both melee and ranged, but that's only fair. Graphically head and shoulders better, Unreal 3 engine, though I'm not sure if it's seamless or zoned, I can live with both as long as zones aren't done stupidly, like in AoC, Assassin's Creed had better transitions.

One thing though, if BOTH of them flop, that would REALLY suck. I mean, epically. Without those two, we're years away from a game like that.

I'm here for the conquest in DF, MO can go flop and I wouldn't give a damn. Even if DF did, I wouldn't play MO.

[Drakhan]

I'll play the one that is release first. At the moment im confused and thinking it could be either one :(

[Lachrymose]

One thing though, if BOTH of them flop, that would REALLY suck. I mean, epically. Without those two, we're years away from a game like that.
there's always earthrise, which although its sci-fi rather than fantasy definitely looks like it could be a great game.

I'm here for the conquest in DF, MO can go flop and I wouldn't give a damn. Even if DF did, I wouldn't play MO.
MO has conquest too... in fact, it's probably better than DF's since you aren't restricted to building cities near guild stones.

[Temet nosce]

Moved to OT.

Our day is coming fucker. Eventually we will find out who you are and hunt you down for dumping this shit on us.

[Haeso]

there's always earthrise, which although its sci-fi rather than fantasy definitely looks like it could be a great game.


MO has conquest too... in fact, it's probably better than DF's since you aren't restricted to building cities near guild stones.

Not sure if you've been following the game at all, but it's decidedly not a focus of the game, it's merely a possibility within the system. That's not what I'm looking for.

[Sabbathius]

there's always earthrise, which although its sci-fi rather than fantasy definitely looks like it could be a great game.

I love the way Earthrise looks. When I hear "post apocalyptic" I picture Fallout, but Earthrise is so crispy and pretty that it's refreshing.

And yeah, MO will probably have great conquest and town building. People who haven't played AoC don't know just how stupid the clan stones can be, AoC had plots for clan city building, and it was so dorky.

[Lachrymose]

Not sure if you've been following the game at all, but it's decidedly not a focus of the game, it's merely a possibility within the system. That's not what I'm looking for.
uh... are you kidding? it's a HUGE focus of the game. have you been following it at all? i certainly have: http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/members/lachrymose.html

the only reason it doesn't seem like it's a huge feature is because they haven't said much about the conquest. the reason they haven't said much is because it's a complex system that may change at some point, and they don't want to release info when it is still subject to change.. http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/2383-so-no-siege-warfare.html#post46437

you'll also notice in the link that only 2% of the people in the thread said the weren't interested in clan conquest, so i don't see where you come up with the idea that MO followers don't want conquest.

[Phratello]

are... are you blind?

I must be, because really I only see small differences.

[Carl Ragadamn]

I think alot of people are wanting a game like darkfall, mortal online is pretty much a copy but made by a proper company.

i wanted to see how many would think of mortal online if pushed back again.

I love MO fanbois who think the game will release on schedule.

FUCK Mortal, the devs will cave to pressure and nerf the game into yet another carebear fest.

[Haeso]

uh... are you kidding? it's a HUGE focus of the game. have you been following it at all? i certainly have: http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/members/lachrymose.html

the only reason it doesn't seem like it's a huge feature is because they haven't said much about the conquest. the reason they haven't said much is because it's a complex system that may change at some point, and they don't want to release info when it is still subject to change.. http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/2383-so-no-siege-warfare.html#post46437

you'll also notice in the link that only 2% of the people in the thread said the weren't interested in clan conquest, so i don't see where you come up with the idea that MO followers don't want conquest.

What do we know about their conquest system, nothing other than it's based upon their modular housing or some shit. And the fact that they haven't even decided on what IT is going to be in the end. As the most important feature to the game for me, if they haven't even finalized it, it's not a big priority feature. Also their little bit about "balanced around 1v1 small skirmishes as that carriers over to larger battles" is absurd. It's just not the case at all.

[Haeso]

Couple quotes from their "information summary"

"Will the PvP system be based on small skirmishes or massive battles?
The PvP is based on one-to-one or skirmishing battles, as that is the foundation for good gameplay in larger-scale PvP battles. However, at the moment I can't tell you the number of players in that kind of battle."

"There will be siege warfare and destroyable “buildings” in MO, houses are modular. You can improve them. So a guild can upgrade its HQ into some kind of fortress, and why would you be able to upgrade your fortress if it’s not for war?
We have not released any detailed information about how cities and warfare will work yet because of the complexity of the system, and details are not yet worked out, but we do have a really interesting system when it comes to city control and warfare. It is a feature that takes lots of time to get it to work well, but I do believe it will be a very interesting system for most players. As the details are not yet finished we don’t want speak to much on the details as it may change.
There will also be some sort of player housing that works as a safe spot for some players. But they will get involved in one way or another into the city control system. More information will be released when we are sure of how it will work.
When it comes to factions it may work similar to UOs 4 factions, many pvp veterans liked that system that’s why we are looking into it and playing around with it. I also plaid lots of faction wars chaos/order and normal guild wars in UO, and I had the best time of my life in a MMO. We do like pvp and warfare and want it to be a great part of the game. And if we see a system/feature like faction wars that starts to interfere with city warfare in a bad way or just split up the players of the pvp part we will try to remake or just freeze the system which makes the pvp part less fun. This is not something you do over a night and must stick with it. This is a system that needs lots of playtime to get right, but hopefully it will be all worth it in the end. I hope this will give you some understanding of the status and our visions when it comes to warfare in Mortal Online."

"There is no territory control system/map like in shadowbane on release. There will be guild crests. They might not be customizable. Guilds can show (on their characters) how good they are in pvp. For example how many kills they have. There are no hard-coded pvp spots to capture like the mines in Shadowbane. There will be some kidn of faction system to give players reason to fight."

This all points to a can happen but not is the focus of the game.

[Lachrymose]

What do we know about their conquest system, nothing other than it's based upon their modular housing or some shit. And the fact that they haven't even decided on what IT is going to be in the end. As the most important feature to the game for me, if they haven't even finalized it, it's not a big priority feature. Also their little bit about "balanced around 1v1 small skirmishes as that carriers over to larger battles" is absurd. It's just not the case at all.
ok.. did you not even read what i wrote? they already have the conquest system, but they need to test it first before they give us the info on it because they might change something if things don't go as planned during testing.

[Haeso]

ok.. did you not even read what i wrote? they already have the conquest system, but they need to test it first before they give us the info on it because they might change something if things don't go as planned during testing.

Read the post above yours, from their "information" summary.

And Should they be in and destructable? What the fuck is that bullshit, that could lead to some fail fucking trash like AoC. Too fucking ambiguous, it merely asked if the community is interested in it at all, not anything to do with the implementation.

It polled interest in it, it doesn't mention anything beyond that.

[Lachrymose]

This all points to a can happen but not is the focus of the game.
i don't see how it points to that at all. they have a conquest system.. they don't have a territory map like shadowbane because they "There are no hard-coded pvp spots to capture like the mines in Shadowbane."

so all that says is there is a conquest system that is different than shadowbane because the territories aren't hard-coded into the game, but rather they defined by the players themselves.

And Should they be in and destructable? What the fuck is that bullshit, that could lead to some fail fucking trash like AoC. Too fucking ambiguous, it merely asked if the community is interested in it at all, not anything to do with the implementation.
the reason for that is because someone went to liepzig GC and interviewed the devs and incorrectly interpreted that there would be no siege warfare and posted it on an information website he created.

[Sinnes]

but rather they defined by the players themselves.


Which is the way it should be :)

[Haeso]

i don't see how it points to that at all. they have a conquest system.. they don't have a territory map like shadowbane because they "There are no hard-coded pvp spots to capture like the mines in Shadowbane."

so all that says is there is a conquest system that is different than shadowbane because the territories aren't hard-coded into the game, but rather they defined by the players themselves.

Which is ridiculously ambiguous, that covers literally every MMOs pvp system to date. They've made no mention of the conquest meta game being a focus of MO, don't go suggesting otherwise.

[Phratello]

I love MO fanbois who think the game will release on schedule.

FUCK Mortal, the devs will cave to pressure and nerf the game into yet another carebear fest.

Trollin'

[epicor]

I voted MO, not sure why. I think if they release at the same time I would test both and then make a decision. From the looks of it MO will look better but we have absolutly no idea how it will play. I'm hoping it won't come to that and DFO will release on time (though we cant really call it on time since there was a release date 3 years ago that got swept under the rug after the company switch. and even then there has already been 1 pushback because of on of the vendors)

[Lachrymose]

They've made no mention of the conquest meta game being a focus of MO, don't go suggesting otherwise.
they haven't officially, no. but again, they haven't release any info on it because those things are subject to change pending further testing. once testing of these features have been completed, they will be willing to release that info. being that i talk to the devs on a weekly bases in irc, i have heard things that haven't been made official so i'm a little more familiar with what their PLANS are (ofc that doesn't mean things will go according to plan).

[Haeso]

they haven't officially, no. but again, they haven't release any info on it because those things are subject to change pending further testing. once testing of these features have been completed, they will be willing to release that info. being that i talk to the devs on a weekly bases in irc, i have heard things that haven't been made official so i'm a little more familiar with what their PLANS are (ofc that doesn't mean things will go according to plan).

As of right now, according to their website, conquest is a possibility, not a primary focus of the game, if that changes, great another possible game for me to play. But again, as of right now, I don't care about MO at all, it's dead to me.

[Carl Ragadamn]

Trollin'

Nope that is legitimately my opinion of MO, I have said something similar in every MO thread for the last year.

[Lachrymose]

I love MO fanbois who think the game will release on schedule.

FUCK Mortal, the devs will cave to pressure and nerf the game into yet another carebear fest.
i'd consider myself an MO fanboi and i think there's a good chance it won't release on time. in fact, i'm almost hoping they delay since their beta schedule seems pretty short and i'd hate for them to release an unfinished game that hasn't been fully tested.

[Phratello]

Nope that is legitimately my opinion of MO, I have said something similar in every MO thread for the last year.

Well I guess it's to be expected. This is forumfall after all..

[Carl Ragadamn]

i'd consider myself an MO fanboi and i think there's a good chance it won't release on time. in fact, i'm almost hoping they delay since their beta schedule seems pretty short and i'd hate for them to release an unfinished game that hasn't been fully tested.

Being a fan with a healthy degree of grounding if reality is not a bad thing, blindly being a fanboi who spouts off that MO is going to be the "absolute bestest game EVAR!!!!" is a bad thing.

My problem with MO and the super fans is that their excitement is based solely off what is basically speculation on the game from the website. You seem to have dug deeper for more info, so I will grant you a pass.

[Phratello]

Being a fan with a healthy degree of grounding if reality is not a bad thing, blindly being a fanboi who spouts off that MO is going to be the "absolute bestest game EVAR!!!!" is a bad thing.

My problem with MO and the super fans is that their excitement is based solely off what is basically speculation on the game from the website. You seem to have dug deeper for more info, so I will grant you a pass.

Sir there are thousands of people like that here on forumfall. Your logic is severely flawed. I've never seen a MO "super fan." In fact everyone I've seen who has posted positive things about MO had to dig deeper for info as the info on the front page is sometimes a bit misleading.

If your referring to the release date, yeah I think they'll make release even with their small period of Beta testing, but the scale of the project is not infinitely huge like say DFO's. Thats a big map, and its alot of work. Big maps won't be a problem for MO on release.

[Carl Ragadamn]

Sir there are thousands of people like that here on forumfall. Your logic is severely flawed. I've never seen a MO "super fan." In fact everyone I've seen who has posted positive things about MO had to dig deeper for info as the info on the front page is sometimes a bit misleading.

If your referring to the release date, yeah I think they'll make release even with their small period of Beta testing, but the scale of the project is not infinitely huge like say DFO's. Thats a big map, and its alot of work. Big maps won't be a problem for MO on release.

I think that if they release on schedule it will be another Shadowbane.

And there have been fanbois posting, one of them so bad that I saw Brannoc personally lock his thread. I think Brannykins also banned that user.

[ExiliuM]

mortal online is vaporz lolololz kk

:>

[GlacierFreeze]

MO won't be out for a long time.

[Siko]

Is there any detailed information about Mortal Online except for the official site and the official forums? Darkfall seemed closer to being finished to me in 2004 than Mortal Online does to me now. :p

I'm not saying that to bash MO. I'm sure they intend to release summer 2009. I'm just wondering if there are any interviews where actual gameplay has been shown off, and stuff like that.

Anyway, my impression with the limited information available is that the MO developers haven't had as much focus on world design as Darkfall. Most of the terrain looks like backdrops while Darkfall looks solid, and explorable. Maybe I'm wrong, and the "if you can see it, you can go there" principle is present in MO as well. The "This is a world I want to explore" feeling is what makes me most anxious to try out Darkfall, and I'm just not getting that with Mortal Online.

Of course, if Mortal Online comes out first, I'll probably give it a go. I'll try Darkfall no matter what, though, and may not try mortal online if I'm hooked on Darkfall already.

[Jonkar]

Likely both.

[Lachrymose]

I'm just wondering if there are any interviews where actual gameplay has been shown off, and stuff like that.
well, this is all they've shown so far: http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=61298&a=1308943

it shows a couple creature models and a very short amount of gameplay at about 0:55.

[Harsher]

I think alot of people are wanting a game like darkfall, mortal online is pretty much a copy but made by a proper company.

i wanted to see how many would think of mortal online if pushed back again.

MO doesn't look close to ready. Maybe looks good on paper, but I don't see it releasing this year.

[Siko]

well, this is all they've shown so far: http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=61298&a=1308943

it shows a couple creature models and a very short amount of gameplay at about 0:55.Thank you. I wouldn't call that gameplay footage, though. Looked more like a preview mode in an editor. I won't make up an opinion about the game until I see some real gameplay footage. Still, 6 months to go, so plenty of time to show off the game, and there's likely a lot less for them to test with a smaller world and a licensed engine.

[Darkened]

omg why post this pilock prick twat.

to stop people like you from posting.

another reported post.

[Lachrymose]

Thank you. I wouldn't call that gameplay footage, though. Looked more like a preview mode in an editor.
yeah, it isn't exactly gameplay but it's the closest thing we've got. since they are in beta development right now, hopefully they will show us some actual footage. at this point, i don't care if they show us something that they have to change later, i'd just like to see what they have so far.. i wouldn't expect anything big this month (new info release will be this thurs or fri), but i'm hopeful to see at least something either feb or march.

[Carl Ragadamn]

to stop people like you from posting.

another reported post.

Why do you insist on making me hate you? Seriously if you dont like what he said, ignore it. Stop being a little girl and grow a pair.

[Surface]

I always wonder why people are so quick to flame MO, it's another big step in the right direction for MMO's. I'm pretty damn happy that I may have the ability to choose between 2 PVP-orientated games.

[Carl Ragadamn]

I always wonder why people are so quick to flame MO, it's another big step in the right direction for MMO's. I'm pretty damn happy that I may have the ability to choose between 2 PVP-orientated games.

Part of the hatred here is due to the first 1k people being 80% forumfallers, but they carebeared up their forums and thru suspensions and bans, most of us have left. Any pvp based game that starts suspending people excited about their game simply for referring to it as Mortalfall, is going to get beat to death here.

[Feyrband]

Due for release is summer.
stop thinking so literal.
if you dont want to answer the question don't enter and post crap.
if you have a different question make your own poll.
if you do want to answer, leave feedback that isnt like OMG YOUR GAY.

if MO is coming out this summer DFO is coming out last December.

btw, you're so emma and julia.

[Darkened]

if MO is coming out this summer DFO is coming out last December.

btw, you're so emma and julia.

MO has been in development since 2002. i wouldn't be suprised if it did come out this summer.

[Sabbathius]

Thank you. I wouldn't call that gameplay footage, though. Looked more like a preview mode in an editor. I won't make up an opinion about the game until I see some real gameplay footage. Still, 6 months to go, so plenty of time to show off the game, and there's likely a lot less for them to test with a smaller world and a licensed engine.

You can see the level of detail quite well when they show that monster on the monitor. Looks comparable to Age of Conan. It'll be about 5 years ahead of Darkfall, graphically. Darkfall is midway between Morrowind (2002) and Oblivion (2006). They also use the finished engine, rather than reinventing the wheel like Aventurine did, that cost them quite a bit of time.

I also keep hearing that MO is on schedule. That is, they said they'll be at this stage at such and such time, and so far they kept it, unlike some other companies I know. They're saying they're out of alpha and into beta, six months for beta sounds good. And summer 2009 technically includes September. So 8 months, not 6. Plenty of time. I actually think (assuming DF isn't vaporware, which I'm unsure of, again, ever since they asked people to preorder) it will be a very good comparison, two games, very similar features.

EDIT: And like the guy above says, MO has been in development for quite a while, 2002, as long as Darkfall. Except the project was pretty much on backburner until 2005, while Darkfall was promising beta in 2006.

[entrailsgalore]

MO's UE3 looks sexy. Which ever has faster combat I would probably go for. We will have to see how DFO is first though.

[Darkened]

Abuse? This is Forumfall, bitch. Get used to it.

No this is darkfall forums, not your own fantasy world.

[Darkened]

You are an 06er, don't you know how it works here you pussy?

reported.

and yes im a 06. and im here to clean up the morons on here like you

[Haeso]

You are an 06er, don't you know how it works here you pussy?

He signed up all that time ago, but never posted. He's just another 09 level of experience/intelligence with a join date.

reported.

and yes im a 06. and im here to clean up the morons on here like you

You'll get infracted for reporting so often before most of us get infractions.

[alfaroverall]

there's always earthrise, which although its sci-fi rather than fantasy definitely looks like it could be a great game.
Eh...no. Earthrise looks like it's not going to make PvP consensual or avoidable, but it's also looking like the consequences for it won't be nearly as harsh as they will be in Darkfall and MO. I foresee PvP-lite in Earthrise.
MO has conquest too... in fact, it's probably better than DF's since you aren't restricted to building cities near guild stones.
So sprawl ftw, then? In that situation, the only practical way to avoid massive sprawl is to make it ridiculously easy to destroy buildings, and then any sort of sieging system becomes ridiculously trivial. The only alternative is to create a truly massive world with far more space than is needed for its users, giving them plenty of room to build, and I don't think that's especially practical right now, given the way that MMOs set up their servers (which to this day emulates the traditional "zoning" system in some way, even though formal zone lines have mostly been abolished).

Also, if I remember correctly, isn't MO's whole world slated to be about 64 km^2? Let's do some math here and compare that to Darkfall's world:
For simplicity's sake, let's assume both worlds are perfectly flat squares. Next let's assume that a person in game can run about 8 km/hr; that's a little under 5 mph. Now, let's assume that Darkfall's "8 hours" quote is from one corner to the opposite corner; alone the diagonal, in other words. This means the diagonal is 64 km (8 km/hr*8 hours), which makes the sides each 64/sqrt(2) km, which makes the whole world 128 km^2. That's twice the size of MO's world.

See what I did there?

Oh yeah, and the other thing that drove me away from MO: its community is plagued with carebearism. The same is true of Earthrise's community. People say "they'll cave blah blah" but when their actual pre-beta community is like that, they pretty much HAVE to cave to avoid simply failing altogether. That's what drove me away from the game in the first place. I had forgotten about that...

[Esudar]

reported.

and yes im a 06. and im here to clean up the morons on here like you

i just reportet you for that

[Loadafreak]

Only thing I liked from MO's teaser trailer thing, was how the guy was going down into the cave and it was dark as fuck and he NEEDED to use a torch to be able to see anything at all.

THAT's how it should be. Dungeons should be scary, and dark, and mindfucking... and then a huge monster steps infront of you (sort of happened in the trailer too) and eats your dick off.

I just hope the gameplay is like that too.

[Sabbathius]

reported.

Whoa, WoW flashback...

GG a-holes, now they will lock up this thread.

[Darkened]

He signed up all that time ago, but never posted. He's just another 09 level of experience/intelligence with a join date.



900 seconds between reports, you're a bad liar *yawn*

yep
i got a list of people to report.
and i been doing it all day till hopefully the staff realise that you guys need to cut the crap.

and i may have only just started posting, but thats cos i been busy having a life till i thought darkfall was out.

[Haeso]

yep
i got a list of people to report.
and i been doing it all day till hopefully the staff realise that you guys need to cut the crap.

and i may have only just started posting, but thats cos i been busy having a life till i thought darkfall was out.

You'll get infracted for wasting the mod's time before any of us get infractions.

[Darkened]

Whoa, WoW flashback...

GG a-holes, now they will lock up this thread.

i made this thread.

it is my thread.

so go away.

[GlacierFreeze]

yep
i got a list of people to report.
and i been doing it all day till hopefully the staff realise that you guys need to cut the crap.


If you can't take it, then gtfo?

Oh yeah, definitely WoWish to report. lol. Go back to WoW.

[Darkened]

You'll get infracted for wasting the mod's time before any of us get infractions.

not a waste of time, im just reporting people swearing and abusing eachother.

[Haeso]

not a waste of time, im just reporting people swearing and abusing eachother.

The mods swear and troll all the time, enjoy your infractions for wasting their time.

[Darkened]

If you can't take it, then gtfo?

Oh yeah, definitely WoWish to report. lol. Go back to WoW.

again, my thread. you get out.

reported

[GlacierFreeze]

again, my thread. you get out.

reported

Oooh I'm scared. They don't give a shit.

How does that make you feel? You got flamed, got your feelings hurt, and wasting your time with reporting. lol

[Darkened]

Oooh I'm scared. They don't give a shit.

How does that make you feel? You got flamed,got your feelings hurt, and wasting your time with reporting.

it makes me feel good actually.

[Carl Ragadamn]

im alfar. thats why i dont intend to make friends over the internet as im not a little loser.

the report button is there for a reason, and its funny cos everytime i get a message being like OMG YOU PUSSY.

i report you for abuse.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:

Wow just wow, you are the lamest little troll to come out from under a bridge in months. You can feel free to report me all day, because unless they have moved the line suddenly nothing I have said is intractable. Welcome to OT, if you dont like it here go post someplace else, like clans or Darkfall discussion.


Edit:again, my thread. you get out.

reported

Also this is a common mistake of new posters, the thread does not belong to you after you post it, it is what the community decides to make it.

[Haeso]

it makes me feel good actually.

I hope your infractions feel good too.

[Sabbathius]

Also, if I remember correctly, isn't MO's whole world slated to be about 64 km^2? Let's do some math here and compare that to Darkfall's world:
For simplicity's sake, let's assume both worlds are perfectly flat squares. Next let's assume that a person in game can run about 8 km/hr; that's a little under 5 mph. Now, let's assume that Darkfall's "8 hours" quote is from one corner to the opposite corner; alone the diagonal, in other words. This means the diagonal is 64 km (8 km/hr*8 hours), which makes the sides each 64/sqrt(2) km, which makes the whole world 128 km^2. That's twice the size of MO's world.

See what I did there?

I'm tempted to say it's not the size that counts, it's how you use it. Fallout 3 was smaller than Oblivion, but chock-full of stuff, while in Oblivion you would run to 5 mins and not run into anything even remotely fun. So I would take Fallout's world over Oblivion's any day.

And I always hear Darkfall is 8 hrs across, and I hear Darkfall is larger than any other MMO out there. I'll believe it when I see it. What if it's not? What if it's 8 hrs across because the character runs SLOOOOWLY? Or what if it's 8 hrs across because you cannot take a straight path? This was especially glaring in Age of Conan, where half the zones you could only traverse along a single path that went in a serpentine fashion, so even though you could SEE the other end, reaching it was a whole other ball game. What if it's completely barren, for the most part? It's easy to make a 1,000,000x1,000,000 game, as long as it' empty, or covered by copy-pasted pigs that roam in never ending circles. So many what-ifs.

So let's leave the discussion of the game world of DF and MO alone. We just don't know.

[alfaroverall]

To paraphrase Brannoc: it seems this thread has run its course...
I'm tempted to say it's not the size that counts, it's how you use it. Fallout 3 was smaller than Oblivion, but chock-full of stuff, while in Oblivion you would run to 5 mins and not run into anything even remotely fun. So I would take Fallout's world over Oblivion's any day.

And I always hear Darkfall is 8 hrs across, and I hear Darkfall is larger than any other MMO out there. I'll believe it when I see it. What if it's not? What if it's 8 hrs across because the character runs SLOOOOWLY? Or what if it's 8 hrs across because you cannot take a straight path? This was especially glaring in Age of Conan, where half the zones you could only traverse along a single path that went in a serpentine fashion, so even though you could SEE the other end, reaching it was a whole other ball game. What if it's completely barren, for the most part? It's easy to make a 1,000,000x1,000,000 game, as long as it' empty, or covered by copy-pasted pigs that roam in never ending circles. So many what-ifs.

So let's leave the discussion of the game world of DF and MO alone. We just don't know.
Fair enough. I'm just saying, the world is slated to be twice as big, assuming run speeds are the same.

I should also say that it seems that most DF fans that lean towards MO seem to think so because DF has already disappointed them whereas MO, with its lack of statements, can still be postulated to be the game of their dreams. Newsflash: it's probably not going to be the game of your dreams.

[Darkened]

Wow just wow, you are the lamest little troll to come out from under a bridge in months. You can feel free to report me all day, because unless they have moved the line suddenly nothing I have said is intractable. Welcome to OT, if you dont like it here go post someplace else, like clans or Darkfall discussion.

crying cos i reported you and every other guy who has shedded abuse on me and others?

i don't mind sitting here and doing it all day, i just contacted the forum mods and administrater.
im waiting to hear back from them now :D

and i wont get any infractions.

im upholding the rules

thanks.

[Avithis]

If both came out at the sametime id try both

[Haeso]

crying cos i reported you and every other guy who has shedded abuse on me and others?

i don't mind sitting here and doing it all day, i just contacted the forum mods and administrater.
im waiting to hear back from them now :D

and i wont get any infractions.

im upholding the rules

thanks.

You will, you don't understand how offtopic works on these forums. Either you're just trolling, or you're gonna end up suspended. Have fun.

[Carl Ragadamn]

To paraphrase Brannoc: it seems this thread has run its course...

It was sputtering along ok, until the OP decided that it was his job to clean the place up.

[Haeso]

haha so off topic means you can tell people to gtfo to fuck off and call them a pussy.

thats still abuse and against forum rules.

i won't be getting any infractions. you will as i reported you swearing twice now.

lol, someone want to make a nice big collage of the mods references to drugs, sex, and strings of profanity? I simply don't have the patience to correct someone who's going to be infracted for wasting so much mod time.

[Darkened]

Boo fuckity hoo. I'm betting your parents censored your childhood. I bet it was shitty growing up as yourself.

i had a good up bringing, thats why i dont feel the need to swear to get my point across.

you need anger management
:D:D:D:D:D:D
does it annoy you when i do that?
good
are you sweating from being so angry across the internet?
good, keep going.

[Carl Ragadamn]

haha so off topic means you can tell people to gtfo to fuck off and call them a pussy.

thats still abuse and against forum rules.

i won't be getting any infractions. you will as i reported you swearing twice now.

What the fuck? You realize that some words are censored, and one of them is not the word fuck, right?

I honestly hope you get the response, "Boo-fuckity-hoo" from the mods. I would warn you about telling Brannoc how to run his show, but I would rather enjoy watching his hammer smack your face.

[Siko]

EDIT: And like the guy above says, MO has been in development for quite a while, 2002, as long as Darkfall. Except the project was pretty much on backburner until 2005, while Darkfall was promising beta in 2006.
Well, unless I've misunderstood something completely, most of those years were one guy with an idea. According to their annual report for 2007, they had 10 employees total one year ago. That's not disputing the fact that it's been in development for a long time, but the amount of man-hours that have gone into coding for Mortal Online and Darkfall simply cannot be compared. Of course a lot of that time has gone into making the engine from scratch, and keeping it up to date with hardware changes.

The unreal engine is solid for sure, but we won't know how well suited it is for MMO development until people start playing Mortal Online. Darkfall beta testers seem to be impressed with the Darkfall engine so far.

[Darkened]

What the fuck? You realize that some words are censored, and one of them is not the word fuck, right?

I honestly hope you get the response, "Boo-fuckity-hoo" from the mods. I would warn you about telling Brannoc how to run his show, but I would rather enjoy watching his hammer smack your face.

im pretty sure brannoc doesn't want any swearing as the report button is describe (only use if there is fighting, harrasment or abuse)

swearing at me is abuse.

you will get reported

[Haeso]

i had a good up bringing, thats why i dont feel the need to swear to get my point across.

you need anger management
:D:D:D:D:D:D
does it annoy you when i do that?
good
are you sweating from being so angry across the internet?
good, keep going.

I believe what you're doing falls under deliberate attempt to cause unrest in the community, what do you say forumfall, mass report the troll?

[Carl Ragadamn]

Well, unless I've misunderstood something completely, most of those years were one guy with an idea. According to their annual report for 2007, they had 10 employees total one year ago. That's not disputing the fact that it's been in development for a long time, but the amount of man-hours that have gone into coding for Mortal Online and Darkfall simply cannot be compared. Of course a lot of that time has gone into making the engine from scratch, and keeping it up to date with hardware changes.

The unreal engine is solid for sure, but we won't know how well suited it is for MMO development until people start playing Mortal Online. Darkfall beta testers seem to be impressed with the Darkfall engine so far.

Again this is the fundemental flaw with the debate, it can only be solved when there is strong information (ie both in beta atleast).

[Darkened]

I believe what you're doing falls under deliberate attempt to cause unrest in the community, what do you say forumfall, mass report the troll?

the only one trolling is you, i made the thread containing a question, and people like you have ruined it with BLOODY MO WHY POST MO HERE ON DF FORUM.

[Viranth]

Keep it together folks.

[Haeso]

the only one trolling is you, i made the thread containing a question, and people like you have ruined it with BLOODY MO WHY POST MO HERE ON DF FORUM.

Your recent posts have clearly been to antagonize and cause unrest.

[Carl Ragadamn]

the only one trolling is you, i made the thread containing a question, and people like you have ruined it with BLOODY MO WHY POST MO HERE ON DF FORUM.

Boo-Fuckity-Hoo, your thread didnt turn out like you wanted TO BAD, get over it.

I believe what you're doing falls under deliberate attempt to cause unrest in the community, what do you say forumfall, mass report the troll?

I dont really see a reason to mass report him, if he really did hit report that many time, the mods will come to the thread and we will see where it all falls.

[Darkened]

Keep it together folks.

you might like to tell alot of these members of 'forumfall'
as you guys call it, to refrain from swearing all the time.

yes i could be a gimp and say everyone swears in life get over it,
but im not having the thread over run by goons calling people pussys and telling me to fuck off.

[Darkened]

Boo-Fuckity-Hoo, your thread didnt turn out like you wanted TO BAD, get over it.



I dont really see a reason to mass report him, if he really did hit report that many time, the mods will come to the thread and we will see where it all falls.

the thread was fine till you and the others started abusing one another.

report button suggests to use it if there is abuse.
therefor ive reported everyone who has sworn at me and others for abuse, simple.

you get over that.

[Haeso]

the thread was fine till you and the others started abusing one another.

report button suggests to use it if there is abuse.
therefor ive reported everyone who has sworn at me and others for abuse, simple.

you get over that.

You just double posted, that's against the rules. Reported.

[Darkened]

You just double posted, that's against the rules. Reported.

It's not, reporting someone for spamming the same thing every 30 seconds would be reportable, quoting 2 different people is fine.

[Carl Ragadamn]

the thread was fine till you and the others started abusing one another.

report button suggests to use it if there is abuse.
therefor ive reported everyone who has sworn at me and others for abuse, simple.

you get over that.

Actually if you go back and read my posts, I only abused MO until you got all crybaby about it.

I am of the opinion that the Devs of MO will end up making concessions to get their game out, and that will result in it being a big pile of fail.

This opinion is ontopic to the thread, you may want to try getting back on the topic.

[Haeso]

It's not, reporting someone for spamming the same thing every 30 seconds would be reportable, quoting 2 different people is fine.

Double posting is in fact against the rule. It's up to the mods to enforce it within "The spirit of the rule".

[Viranth]

Thread closed.