buying a gaming pc off ebay

[Jaxrobman]

was looking there and seen some good prices....do u think its a good idea to buy from ebay??

[Vaisnt]

No.

[Nevron]

No.

No.

[Jaxrobman]

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[Ankh]

I bought a shuttle gaming rig back in 2003 or something, that worked out pretty well. Completely top of the line for about half price.

[Nevron]

....

Honestly, computers and electronic shit in general is something I don't trust being the 2nd hand owner of unless it's something refurbished from an official outlet.

[Wreatch]

newegg.

[Ankh]

Computer hardware is so fucking cheap these days you'd be an idiot not to use retailers, tbh.

[Jaxrobman]

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Custom-Built-Gaming-PC_W0QQitemZ200294396400QQcmdZViewItemQQ ptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item200294396400&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7 C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1 %7C294%3A50 this seems like great deal

[Achromic]

As above no.

I bought a pre-built from cyberpower through newegg nice and all but I really wish I'd spent it on a custom looking back now.

It's your money but with an extra 500, 600, or 700. You can build a pretty damn good one lot's of sites out there have a lot of pages with help on so it's become easier to build one yourself.

I sure learned quite a bit from reading, I'm no expert barely know what those specific computation things all do but I certainly believe if I had the money I could build one myself.

[Jaxrobman]

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Custom-Built-Gaming-PC_W0QQitemZ200294396400QQcmdZViewItemQQ ptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item200294396400&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7 C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1 %7C294%3A50 this seems like great deal well is it a great deal???not very good with these robot thingys

[Kuruptix]

u can build 1 better for same pricce

[akrippler]

I sure learned quite a bit from reading, I'm no expert barely know what those specific computation things all do but I certainly believe if I had the money I could build one myself.

Trust me you can its like putting legos together. The only hard part is working up the courage to jam a piece in for fear you'll break it.

[cosimo84]

custom build
-good video card,(8600 def not bad but 8800 GT (http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZ8800Q20gtQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR40 QQ_mdoZ) is quite a step up)
-good amount of RAM(I have 4GB)
-a mother board w/descent processor and a power supply that can handle the above

You get that shit and you're set mang. Not all that complicated really ;)

Spending a lil extra on a fan to keep it all cool and quiet, is really worth it too.

[Jaxrobman]

u can build 1 better for same pricce

ya i read this all the time on this website.....but no one ever puts up stats of a good full built comp......its always xxx is better then xxx because xxxx blah blah i dont understand what the fuck....just give me some parts to buy!!! thx all knowing df community.

[Kuruptix]

ya i read this all the time on this website.....but no one ever puts up stats of a good full built comp......its always xxx is better then xxx because xxxx blah blah i dont understand what the fuck....just give me some parts to buy!!! thx all knowing df community.

like honestly, if you dont want to be hardcore pc builder who makes sure that everything is a 100 % compatible with every piece of hardware they get to optimize 100 % of their pc performance then you are good.

If not then

Amd mobo with amd cpu haha

Intel mobo with Intel intel

gpu id say get the new ati hd

[Vaisnt]

Use this, it helps.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-overclock,2117.html

[WhiteF1ame]

was looking there and seen some good prices....do u think its a good idea to buy from ebay??

yes doo it

[alfaroverall]

Trust me you can its like putting legos together. The only hard part is working up the courage to jam a piece in for fear you'll break it.
Such as when installing RAM?

Seriously...installing RAM is counterintuitive as hell. You have to shove the damn thing into the slot really hard to make it lock, and if you don't read the manual and decide that you should just lock the little things on the sides yourself (which, since it seems pretty simple at first glance, seems pretty reasonable to a newbie), you'll fubar the RAM (having done this before).

By contrast, pretty much everything else just goes where it goes. Even the CPU just drops into place, and only drops in one orientation. PSU connections can be a tad bit confusing but that's about it. RAM is just a pain in the ass in general, especially if you're new to building computers.

On-topic: build yourself if you can muster the courage. Either way, avoid ebay. Newegg has some reasonably cheap pre-built rigs. They mark it up compared to building it yourself (obviously, since the assembler has to get paid) but you don't get ridiculously ripped off.

If you have a budget to work with and can say what parts you already have in another desktop (e.g. CD drives) I can get you a decent parts list.

[Malhavok]

For $600 + shipping you could have bought yourself a decent computer off newegg...

E5200 $100
P35/45 Mobo $100
Case + 500 watt PSU $100
4 gigs DDR 2 800/1066 $50
ATI 4850 $150
HDD and CD drive $100

Yaye, $600 budget computer that's better than what you'd have gotten used off ebay.

[alfaroverall]

For $600 + shipping you could have bought yourself a decent computer off newegg...

E5200 $100
P35/45 Mobo $100
Case + 500 watt PSU $100
4 gigs DDR 2 800/1066 $50
ATI 4850 $150
HDD and CD drive $100

Yaye, $600 budget computer that's better than what you'd have gotten used off ebay.
500W with a 4850 seems like you're pushing it a bit. It would probably work but I got a 600W (decent model too, though the 4 12V 18A rails, while functional, are a bit inconvenient) with roughly those same specs all around (other than the CPU, which was a bit weaker and made by AMD, and the obvious change in mobo to compensate for that) and it works quite well.

[Malhavok]

500W with a 4850 seems like you're pushing it a bit. It would probably work but I got a 600W (decent model too, though the 4 12V 18A rails, while functional, are a bit inconvenient) with roughly those same specs all around (other than the CPU, which was a bit weaker and made by AMD, and the obvious change in mobo to compensate for that) and it works quite well.

Shouldn't be a problem. ATI reccomends a 450 watt PSU or 550 for dual 4850s and manufacturers are typically very conservative on that.

I don't know how much power the 4850 takes, but it's less than 150 watts. 150+65 watts E5200 = 205. The rest of your rig isn't going to be sucking up more than 100 watts. A decent 500 watt PSU will have PLENTY of over head even if you don't like pushing PSUs past 80% of their rated maximum. 400 watts would be more interesting.

That'd work, hard to beat at $25. 2 x 12@18 amps = 432, or 345 on the 12v rails at 80% of rated.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341012

[Girth]

First off not everything on ebay is second hand there was some stores operating on it selling normal unused stuff but you should still build it yourself. Newegg is a great place to start also joining amazon as an affiliate can beat out newegg prices alot of the time but newegg is great place to find the parts even if you purchase elsewhere but their reviewers are mostly retards so be cautious.

[Layedballer]

First off not everything on ebay is second hand there was some stores operating on it selling normal unused stuff but you should still build it yourself. Newegg is a great place to start also joining amazon as an affiliate can beat out newegg prices alot of the time but newegg is great place to find the parts even if you purchase elsewhere but their reviewers are mostly retards so be cautious.

The problem I(and it seems OP) have, seems to be that I do not know what components are good and compatable with each other, nor do we know what components need what to operate efficiently. For example, a couple posts up they talk about needing 550w and 450w etc etc. Might as well be a foreign language
So is there somewhere to find that info out?

[Caalador]

was looking there and seen some good prices....do u think its a good idea to buy from ebay??

As long as the seller has 99% feedback or better and they live in ur country then its not really a problem

[Daccus]

ya i read this all the time on this website.....but no one ever puts up stats of a good full built comp......its always xxx is better then xxx because xxxx blah blah i dont understand what the fuck....just give me some parts to buy!!! thx all knowing df community.


SAMSUNG 20X DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model TS-H653N - 22.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151179)

Rosewill R220-P-BK Black 0.5mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 22.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147074)

SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - 54.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152052)

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066
&
SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB
217.98 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.152 530)

PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous - 104.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005)

Foxconn G45M-S LGA 775 Intel G45 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - 94.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186162)

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache - 164.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037)

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - 36.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134)

All this for a grand total of $749.00 after shipping. With $90 in mail-in rebates. $659 would be the total after the mail-in rebates come back.

I posted this the other day, you could always go a bit cheaper on the CPU and skip the after market fan. This system will play everything quite well.

[saltwaterteffy]

Trust me you can its like putting legos together. The only hard part is working up the courage to jam a piece in for fear you'll break it.

exactly. I was skeptical the first time I built a pc. It really isn't as hard as you think.

the hardest things to do imo (which are still easy) are putting the grease on the CPU fan plate and putting the CPU in (nerve wracking), making sure you have spacers between your MOBO and your case (i learned that lesson the hard way) and making sure your memory is snapped in. I had issues with my PC powering up but not booting up and the memory not being snug was the issue. its something that is easily overlooked.

Other than that...it really IS like putting legos together :lmao:

[Layedballer]

SAMSUNG 20X DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model TS-H653N - 22.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151179)

Rosewill R220-P-BK Black 0.5mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 22.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147074)

SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - 54.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152052)

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066
&
SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB
217.98 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.152 530)

PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous - 104.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005)

Foxconn G45M-S LGA 775 Intel G45 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - 94.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186162)

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache - 164.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037)

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - 36.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134)

All this for a grand total of $749.00 after shipping. With $90 in mail-in rebates. $659 would be the total after the mail-in rebates come back.

I posted this the other day, you could always go a bit cheaper on the CPU and skip the after market fan. This system will play everything quite well.

What would a radeon 4850 compare to nvidia geforce? In otherwords I know that 9800>8800>7800>6800 etc on geforce but where does the 4850 place?

[Elynole]

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Custom-Built-Gaming-PC_W0QQitemZ200294396400QQcmdZViewItemQQ ptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item200294396400&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7 C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1 %7C294%3A50 this seems like great deal

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[Elynole]

The problem I(and it seems OP) have, seems to be that I do not know what components are good and compatable with each other, nor do we know what components need what to operate efficiently. For example, a couple posts up they talk about needing 550w and 450w etc etc. Might as well be a foreign language
So is there somewhere to find that info out?

Then you should do some research. Not trying to be harsh or anything, but why would you be looking to buy anything that you could potentially be ripped off for...for thousands of dollars...without doing any research, or rather know what you're looking for?

http://www.comptechdoc.org/hardware/pc/begin/index.html

Google is your friend.

I'll share what I have in my comp so if you'd like to build it :P

Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4132075&CatId=2541)
Processor(CPU):Intel Core2Duo 3.0ghz (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3574211)
Power Supply:OCZ GameXStream 700w PS (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2235424&CatId=2533)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce 9800GTX+ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130385)
Harddrive: WD Raptor 74gb @ 10,000RPM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136033)
Disc Drive: LITE-On 22x DVD-RW (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106269)
Casing: ThermalTake Armor - Full Tower (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133154)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium x64 bit (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488)
Memory: Kingston 1024mb x 4 DDR2 800mhz (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2231927&CatId=1872)
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3331773&CatId=142)
Mouse: Razer Lachesis Banshee Gaming Mouse (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3331776&CatId=539)

Anyways, I just posted this so potential rig builders can compare. Some of my stuff is outdated, like my motherboard and RAM but my case still performs exceptionally well. :)

[Girth]

What would a radeon 4850 compare to nvidia geforce? In otherwords I know that 9800>8800>7800>6800 etc on geforce but where does the 4850 place?

4850 goes up against 9800, 4870 goes up against 260, 4870x2 goes up against 280

[NapalmEnema]

well is it a great deal???not very good with these robot thingys

A fool and his money are easily parted.

Just build it yourself it's not hard.

[alfaroverall]

Shouldn't be a problem. ATI reccomends a 450 watt PSU or 550 for dual 4850s and manufacturers are typically very conservative on that.

I don't know how much power the 4850 takes, but it's less than 150 watts. 150+65 watts E5200 = 205. The rest of your rig isn't going to be sucking up more than 100 watts. A decent 500 watt PSU will have PLENTY of over head even if you don't like pushing PSUs past 80% of their rated maximum. 400 watts would be more interesting.

That'd work, hard to beat at $25. 2 x 12@18 amps = 432, or 345 on the 12v rails at 80% of rated.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341012
Dual 4850s? Au contraire, right on the box it says the minimum PSU for an entire system running a 4850 should be 450W.

Still, I got my PSU for $50, and it has a good bit of upgradability. As in, I could plop a 4870, a GTX 260, or maybe even a GTX 280 into this rig, and nothing would happen.
4850 goes up against 9800, 4870 goes up against 260, 4870x2 goes up against 280
Except that in the latter it's usually no contest with the 4870x2 beating the GTX 280 pretty badly, as would be expected for the huge price increase.

[Porthius]

I've built two computers for friends recently that can pretty much run anything on high settings for less than $800. Paying a company to build your computer is stupid because they have to raise prices to actually make money on it. And I definitely wouldn't trust some stranger off of Ebay.

[Indah]

Problemw ith all these builds, is you are forgeting the monitor. That one on ebay had a 19inch flatpanel so add another 100$, and if you only have 600$, you cant turn it into 800$ by majik. If he has a good rating, and he lives in the same country, it will not be that bad I don't think.

[Mr.LichTwitch]

Honestly, computers and electronic shit in general is something I don't trust being the 2nd hand owner of unless it's something refurbished from an official outlet.

What makes you think everything on Ebay is used?

[Nevron]

What makes you think everything on Ebay is used?

I don't, but a significant portion of it is.

[Eldaran]

Please god no!

[[O]_Fawkes]

Stupid idea.

Go to Newegg and shop there. I just went down the list of parts and bought ones that would fit the build I wanted. Don't be stupid, don't buy off of Ebay for a computer.

[nick larking]

Honestly, computers and electronic shit in general is something I don't trust being the 2nd hand owner of unless it's something refurbished from an official outlet.

^.

most of the time you pretty much get screwed over.
But there is still a chance its actualy still in a good state.

Wouldnt buy a comp on ebay, but feel free to test it out how good it will end up for you:ohno:

[Ultimo]

well is it a great deal???not very good with these robot thingys

I don't think so. I built a similar one (although a bit better) using newegg for cheaper...and that was over a year ago.

[Elynole]

Problemw ith all these builds, is you are forgeting the monitor. That one on ebay had a 19inch flatpanel so add another 100$, and if you only have 600$, you cant turn it into 800$ by majik. If he has a good rating, and he lives in the same country, it will not be that bad I don't think.

Well, I mean considering that the person already has a computer to see what he's typing on a forum...he wouldn't ABSOLUTELY NEED a new monitor obviously...atleast not at that second.

[Spineless_DoO]

was looking there and seen some good prices....do u think its a good idea to buy from ebay??

Its a bad idea to buy anything period off of Ebay. Good luck trying to get a warenty or a return taken care of.